Chances of Civil War in January of 2021. United States.

entropolis

Member
I'm sorry folks. I've not been back this way for a while. I've been quite busy with efforts of my own to devalue/distract/diffuse/dismay/derail the organizational mustering of extremist right wing militia movements up here in the Pacnorwest. My priority one has been to limit collateral spatter, thus sparing innocent american civilian lives. Not on secondary elint check-ins. And might I add a complete bitch-kitten for someone who's reduced to solitary vigilantism to do so. If the Feds don't take a more aggressively visible involvement soon these assholes are already primed and prepped for mass casualty violence that could quickly eclipse our losses in the oklahoma city bombing by orders of magnitude. I've done everything I can do, and will continue to do so until the sectarian probability of violence settles. But it's just a lot for one fifty year old war dog well past his prime to keep up with, AND make the OSINT posting rounds. So apologize for my long interim absence , with those caveats-by-means-of-explanation in mind.

As you may have ascertained from the previous paragraph the probability of sectarian violence is as high as i've ever seen it in this country. We're closing in on conditions i've only ever seen in places like a dissolving Yugoslavia, and five way lebanese civil strife. Reminiscent of when Taylor was being ousted in Liberia. Not to put too fine a line on it..It's bad. Wherever you are, pick up a shovel and help fill those sandbags against this rising tide of hysteria before it can snap off into full violence, in what ways you have available, and where you can make the most difference. For everyone else, now's the time to be double checking your stockpile for temporary local anarchy. Readiness one all the ordinance in your weapons locker. Make a habit of listening to your local PD's comms. Keep that situational awareness sharp. The militias up here at least with present numbers & dispositions lack the backing or support network logistics to go full insurgency, but certainly DO have it within their reach to quickly exceed most local PD's simultaneous event carry capacity. We need natguard on standby, up here at any rate. This weekend looks to be a possible trigger point, i've seen some DC PD twitter chatter of out-of-typical-stompgrounds traffic numbering as highly as two thousand. Not enough to make much more headway than creation of a civilian body count leading up to the greasestain of their remains, considering our localized national assets already present & ready to respond. Other than that, I don't know much of what's going on elsewhere nationally. Pretty overtaxed just dealing with what's in my own backyard. I have precious little remaining bandwidth to look much farther afield.

Heard from a little bird that USSS has taken under a fuzzed 704FISA ex-judicial custody domestic nationals they'd been FUSION CENTER DNI tipped to have active lethal intentions to the president-elect. Numbers seem all over the place, but maybe as few as a couple of perps to as high as a hundred. Serious grain of salt with that report however. That little bird has a low confidence value, but occasionally has the advance dime to drop.

In summation I really don't have time or attention to spare to give an exhaustive analysis of the situation. So you'll have to make do with this vast oversimplification. We have in excess of fifty million citizens who've been agitation propaganda red pilled into believing their survival is at stake. Despite every confidence & evidence to the contrary. The rest of the country regards the majority of that partisan camp as having gone full rabid, incapable/unwilling of being reconciled with the national normative. Nor any other situational narrative in which they do not occupy an elevated status of carte blanche discretional supremacy. The rest of the nation makes preparations accordingly, to defend/counterattack visibly, or avoids by pollyanna dismissal.

What it appears to be from my partisan position on the fifty yard line is a political cult that's hinged it's collective self identity on a man primarily obsessed with grafting whatever he can grab from all fiscal sources in his reach. A failed cultural supremacy bid animal undergoing it's first sense it's cause may be on the rocks. Only time will tell what desperate measures people pushed to that edge will do, how long they''ll be that way. or how long the poisoned rhetorical apples effects will linger in the national dialogue. I expect the probability of incidental localized/specific violence to be very high at about 60-80% over the next nine days, then diminish to about even 50/50 with smaller spikes attributable to normal seasonal holiday depression being homicidally expressed. Then again a rise from 60% in the three day run up to the office transition by about 10% a day. I do not reasonably expect to avoid spontaneously motivated internecine violence the eve of, or day of the office transfer. I expect for ten to fifteen days after the transfer for the risk of violent outbreak to remain between elevated and acute. Akin to our good friend orange on the domestic terror index color. I do not expect any return to a normative social climate occuring any sooner than spring. March, April somewhere. If we're lucky.

That's all i've got to offer you fine gentlemen and ladies, at this time. Keep those heads on a swivel, watch out for pre-attack prepping behavior by individuals personally known to you as being potentially vulnerable to it. It is better to intercede and be proven wrong, than do nothing and be proven right. By far. Share or excerpt my missive as you see fit, attribution means far less to me than our collective capacity to spare lives in this most delicate moment in our national living memory. DxBNA3vWsAAkc2P.jpg
 
Last edited:

joaqweri

Active member
DC has potential to get hot tomorrow. "million maga march" which the proud boys are gonna be at is tomorrow, and folks on the left are already preparing counter demonstrations.
 

entropolis

Member
DC has potential to get hot tomorrow. "million maga march" which the proud boys are gonna be at is tomorrow, and folks on the left are already preparing counter demonstrations.

Yeah, I know that's the billing. Doubt they'll get anything anywhere near those numbers. The proximity of the counterprotesters in a new jurisdictional purview, and the defacto abandonment of the executives role to liason between LEA's signals to me that DCPD may not be properly briefed in ground conditions seen elsewhere in the nation. But maybe enough ranking brass have at least half-paid attention to the national news at all. The riot squad is going to have a precariously thin line to walk. Too heavy or lighthanded, or failure to create a officer cordion between the two factions could easily have the opposite effect on calming things down.I hope to god they've been reciently trained in advance descelation tactics. BUt I know their budget for those kind of optionals for metro DCPD is usually pretty sparingly thin, so i'm skeptical.
 
S

SybilDefense

Guest
Eh not likly. No more than when Obama was elected.

But if things where to happen, it wouldn't be statehood against statehood but brother against brother. A war between the people not state against state.
My concern is, unless the President declares limited martial law and have the military oversee a new election, there will be a bloody civil war. People will die but the crooked treasonous politicians will safely hide in their bunkers and once again go unpunished.
The Great Reset will be happy to watch us depopulate ourselves and destroy the infrastructure so they can emerge and impose the green new deal to "build back better".
Only martial law before the fight would prevent the war, while providing a military tribunal to punish those who are seeking to destroy us solely for their own financial gain and world control.
Just wait until we learn that it was John Podesta and Joel Benenson who planned the Coronavirus release (as well as Zika '16), Russiagate, Rise of Antifa and BLM. Read the wikileaked email attachment from Benenson Strategy Group to Podesta in '16 entitled the "Salvage Program". It is the smoking gun you are forbidden to know. It sickens me.
WeThePeopleConvention.org sign the petition to save our Republic.
 
S

SybilDefense

Guest
the whole constitution needs to change to ensure that an incumbent president who loses reelection can't stage a literal coup
There should be leaders in America who stand on the existing constitution and prosecute a (4 yr) coup attempt and treason by defrauding the American people. The constitution is our country. Changing the founding documents to support your declining morality is how we got here in the first place. All we ask for is a fair election under the existing law. That did not happen. Not sure why you are so anxious to live in a country that is locked down and you no longer have the right to live without direct approval from the ______ czar.
China has that system, and flights are cheap...have at it. Enjoy your subsistence.
 
S

SybilDefense

Guest
I think you're being way too generous to the extreme right in this prediction. The capabilities behind organized groups on the extreme right are something to worry about. There is a breaking point with everyone and the more displaced from the center of the political conversation, the quicker people reach this. "It's considered a freedom until it's something that's disagreed with", comes to mind with these types, regardless of side of the isle.

Following the law is one thing. Following the idea of what the law "should be" is another, and I'm sure we'll have our fair share of hard / extreme right-wing responses to the extreme left-wing activities ongoing so far in 2020. Normality of extreme posturing & rhetoric is something to keep watch, regardless of what side pours the most fuel on the fire at the time.
Who's organized on the right?!! Antifa? BLM? No... those are the army of the Marxist anarchists and socialists, funded by $oros and have impunity from any prosecution for their organized coup.
But you will see a powerful response ...not by any extreme right (as if there is one to speak of), but by the "normal people". You may not recognize normal... narcissists can not comprehend anything beyond their own delusions.
 

joaqweri

Active member
if trump by some miraculous chance overturns the election, blue states will declare the federal government illegitimate and the nation will physically split, leading to civil war. if he doesn't, rural militias across the country when biden is sworn in may attempt an armed insurgency, leading to possibly a more middle east style civil war. best case scenario is they stand down, and we manage to keep a fragile nation intact for at least the time being.
 

ZedBoy

Active member
Just saying, Anyone that doesn't accept the current president is against the idea of democracy.

If you are logical in any aspect you'd understand that both sides are needed so that everyone is able to have their voice heard; If you see the other side as an enemy...you are exactly what you're against (Dictatorships), Both sides are accounted for via votes at the local, congressional, senatorial and executive and judicial level, they all match each other out, the exec can challenge the judicial and same for the judicial to the exec/law, if you studied gov't at all, you'd understand.

The biggest threat to democracy is one partyism...aka.. republicans/democrats controlling all 3 areas of the triangle. (You can consider the military a part of that tringle and make it a square)....One more thing for all you "Republicans/democrats" who are extremely unlogical about anything: The other side is a different viewpoint from your own and for a political system to be good, you must make it democratic...which costs money, democratic governments are more secure than something like... china..which has one party running the show with no contesting point of view...if you are an American and you don't enjoy the system...just vote in the next election or leave... Think of it, if you vote for the republican view and your man gets into senare/congress, that's one more republican aruging that point, if a democrat gets in...its the same thing...we need to quit looking at the other side as evil and crazy...when in all honesty, media portays both sides as the enemy as showing the most "Radical" side of things...aka...aoc isn't as bad as you think...trump isn't as bad as you think.... clintion isn't as bad as we think...everything is good and bad at the same time...beruocratic = more secure and harder to get more things moving...meanwhile ccp china is quicker vs more corrupt.... think of it, if you have bp paying democrats to not ban fracking, you're going to have an anti fracking group paying republicans and democrats to go against it, it's stimple concepts here people...you guys are acting super irrational and going against the founding fathers....the idea of representation, you are represented by your offical, it don't matter if you voted or not...the people spoke and well, you still have people in the senate/congress/juditial system that are going to argue for some side, be it repub, lib, demo and such, the only thing that changes that concept is...well... you voting and letting your voice being heard, aka...you vote, your vote counts and well... your person wins/loses...the concept of politics at heart in the american system is "Mutual agreeance" Aka...you become bi-partisan and lose some and win some in a passed law...please, can you just think how the system works...instead of just being a waco consipricy theroist...if you want a one-party system...like the owner talks about...with his anti-lib views...or how many of the administration in this forum do...go to China or a dictatorship/monarchy based country.... The idea of democracy is democratic mutualaterilism aka you have to be bipartisan and you have to come together and meet in the middle...if no one has a contester, they run free and it becomes what many of the staff here hate....a monopoly...idk how you can hate monopolies but like the idea of an all republican/democratic government. you will always have contesting ideas and my way of life isn't yours...but everyone should have a bipartisan logical way of thinking...aka... if you were in a bad situation (Aka republican) in an all democrat gov't...you'd want representation...same for democrats, that's why we have a split and we let people vote, and that's what happened...we have a new president and we get new senators and congressmen....so just accept it, it will change and well, they can't do anything insane without the approval of the other side...that's why we are a democracy and not a communist...Mr.Director, you need to understand this, Democrats don't hate you...You shouldn't hate us...the people who hate you are insane radical democrats...and we understand the insane republicans hate us, it's a logical ideal...every thing will have a crazy fuck attempting to discredit or make someone seem like an enemy...it's just an opposing view and in the end...to progress, we have to debate and slowly come to a middle ground...like everything ever in the history of the world... Mr.Director, don't perpetuate radicalism, perpetuate a legitimate dialog with cool heads, instead of a shill forum that's based on blasting the other side when they present ideas...if the ideas aren't good, they are turned down and they can be reformed... if they are radical, they are thrown out and not remade..due to the idea of stupid people being unable to accept criticism. Now just think about that please, before you perpetuate the insanity
 

ZedBoy

Active member
@
Just saying, Anyone that doesn't accept the current president is against the idea of democracy.

If you are logical in any aspect you'd understand that both sides are needed so that everyone is able to have their voice heard; If you see the other side as an enemy...you are exactly what you're against (Dictatorships), Both sides are accounted for via votes at the local, congressional, senatorial and executive and judicial level, they all match each other out, the exec can challenge the judicial and same for the judicial to the exec/law, if you studied gov't at all, you'd understand.

The biggest threat to democracy is one partyism...aka.. republicans/democrats controlling all 3 areas of the triangle. (You can consider the military a part of that tringle and make it a square)....One more thing for all you "Republicans/democrats" who are extremely unlogical about anything: The other side is a different viewpoint from your own and for a political system to be good, you must make it democratic...which costs money, democratic governments are more secure than something like... china..which has one party running the show with no contesting point of view...if you are an American and you don't enjoy the system...just vote in the next election or leave... Think of it, if you vote for the republican view and your man gets into senare/congress, that's one more republican aruging that point, if a democrat gets in...its the same thing...we need to quit looking at the other side as evil and crazy...when in all honesty, media portays both sides as the enemy as showing the most "Radical" side of things...aka...aoc isn't as bad as you think...trump isn't as bad as you think.... clintion isn't as bad as we think...everything is good and bad at the same time...beruocratic = more secure and harder to get more things moving...meanwhile ccp china is quicker vs more corrupt.... think of it, if you have bp paying democrats to not ban fracking, you're going to have an anti fracking group paying republicans and democrats to go against it, it's stimple concepts here people...you guys are acting super irrational and going against the founding fathers....the idea of representation, you are represented by your offical, it don't matter if you voted or not...the people spoke and well, you still have people in the senate/congress/juditial system that are going to argue for some side, be it repub, lib, demo and such, the only thing that changes that concept is...well... you voting and letting your voice being heard, aka...you vote, your vote counts and well... your person wins/loses...the concept of politics at heart in the american system is "Mutual agreeance" Aka...you become bi-partisan and lose some and win some in a passed law...please, can you just think how the system works...instead of just being a waco consipricy theroist...if you want a one-party system...like the owner talks about...with his anti-lib views...or how many of the administration in this forum do...go to China or a dictatorship/monarchy based country.... The idea of democracy is democratic mutualaterilism aka you have to be bipartisan and you have to come together and meet in the middle...if no one has a contester, they run free and it becomes what many of the staff here hate....a monopoly...idk how you can hate monopolies but like the idea of an all republican/democratic government. you will always have contesting ideas and my way of life isn't yours...but everyone should have a bipartisan logical way of thinking...aka... if you were in a bad situation (Aka republican) in an all democrat gov't...you'd want representation...same for democrats, that's why we have a split and we let people vote, and that's what happened...we have a new president and we get new senators and congressmen....so just accept it, it will change and well, they can't do anything insane without the approval of the other side...that's why we are a democracy and not a communist...Mr.Director, you need to understand this, Democrats don't hate you...You shouldn't hate us...the people who hate you are insane radical democrats...and we understand the insane republicans hate us, it's a logical ideal...every thing will have a crazy fuck attempting to discredit or make someone seem like an enemy...it's just an opposing view and in the end...to progress, we have to debate and slowly come to a middle ground...like everything ever in the history of the world... Mr.Director, don't perpetuate radicalism, perpetuate a legitimate dialog with cool heads, instead of a shill forum that's based on blasting the other side when they present ideas...if the ideas aren't good, they are turned down and they can be reformed... if they are radical, they are thrown out and not remade..due to the idea of stupid people being unable to accept criticism. Now just think about that please, before you perpetuate the insanity
@DEFCON Warning System
 
G

Guest

Guest
Just saying, Anyone that doesn't accept the current president is against the idea of democracy.

If you are logical in any aspect you'd understand that both sides are needed so that everyone is able to have their voice heard; If you see the other side as an enemy...you are exactly what you're against (Dictatorships), Both sides are accounted for via votes at the local, congressional, senatorial and executive and judicial level, they all match each other out, the exec can challenge the judicial and same for the judicial to the exec/law, if you studied gov't at all, you'd understand.

The biggest threat to democracy is one partyism...aka.. republicans/democrats controlling all 3 areas of the triangle. (You can consider the military a part of that tringle and make it a square)....One more thing for all you "Republicans/democrats" who are extremely unlogical about anything: The other side is a different viewpoint from your own and for a political system to be good, you must make it democratic...which costs money, democratic governments are more secure than something like... china..which has one party running the show with no contesting point of view...if you are an American and you don't enjoy the system...just vote in the next election or leave... Think of it, if you vote for the republican view and your man gets into senare/congress, that's one more republican aruging that point, if a democrat gets in...its the same thing...we need to quit looking at the other side as evil and crazy...when in all honesty, media portays both sides as the enemy as showing the most "Radical" side of things...aka...aoc isn't as bad as you think...trump isn't as bad as you think.... clintion isn't as bad as we think...everything is good and bad at the same time...beruocratic = more secure and harder to get more things moving...meanwhile ccp china is quicker vs more corrupt.... think of it, if you have bp paying democrats to not ban fracking, you're going to have an anti fracking group paying republicans and democrats to go against it, it's stimple concepts here people...you guys are acting super irrational and going against the founding fathers....the idea of representation, you are represented by your offical, it don't matter if you voted or not...the people spoke and well, you still have people in the senate/congress/juditial system that are going to argue for some side, be it repub, lib, demo and such, the only thing that changes that concept is...well... you voting and letting your voice being heard, aka...you vote, your vote counts and well... your person wins/loses...the concept of politics at heart in the american system is "Mutual agreeance" Aka...you become bi-partisan and lose some and win some in a passed law...please, can you just think how the system works...instead of just being a waco consipricy theroist...if you want a one-party system...like the owner talks about...with his anti-lib views...or how many of the administration in this forum do...go to China or a dictatorship/monarchy based country.... The idea of democracy is democratic mutualaterilism aka you have to be bipartisan and you have to come together and meet in the middle...if no one has a contester, they run free and it becomes what many of the staff here hate....a monopoly...idk how you can hate monopolies but like the idea of an all republican/democratic government. you will always have contesting ideas and my way of life isn't yours...but everyone should have a bipartisan logical way of thinking...aka... if you were in a bad situation (Aka republican) in an all democrat gov't...you'd want representation...same for democrats, that's why we have a split and we let people vote, and that's what happened...we have a new president and we get new senators and congressmen....so just accept it, it will change and well, they can't do anything insane without the approval of the other side...that's why we are a democracy and not a communist...Mr.Director, you need to understand this, Democrats don't hate you...You shouldn't hate us...the people who hate you are insane radical democrats...and we understand the insane republicans hate us, it's a logical ideal...every thing will have a crazy fuck attempting to discredit or make someone seem like an enemy...it's just an opposing view and in the end...to progress, we have to debate and slowly come to a middle ground...like everything ever in the history of the world... Mr.Director, don't perpetuate radicalism, perpetuate a legitimate dialog with cool heads, instead of a shill forum that's based on blasting the other side when they present ideas...if the ideas aren't good, they are turned down and they can be reformed... if they are radical, they are thrown out and not remade..due to the idea of stupid people being unable to accept criticism. Now just think about that please, before you perpetuate the insanity
Mind if I share this? Haven't heard more true words this year than this.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Mind if I share this? Haven't heard more true words this year than this.
We’re not a democracy we’re a democratic republic which allows for representative gov across divergent regions and demographics.
Democracy, pure democracy, ends in tyranny as surely as a dictatorship.
Don’t compare past decades in the US to what was intended as a democratic republic.
It’s an oligarchy maintained by corporate owned media and corporate financed politicians. Now also it seems to include again forgign state finance of political campaigns.

A free society requires an educated and informed populace.
And that is why eventually we will collapse as a nation into fragmented countries like the EU.
And the 100 year plan will be achieved.
 

ZedBoy

Active member
We’re not a democracy we’re a democratic republic which allows for representative gov across divergent regions and demographics.
Democracy, pure democracy, ends in tyranny as surely as a dictatorship.
Don’t compare past decades in the US to what was intended as a democratic republic.
It’s an oligarchy maintained by corporate owned media and corporate financed politicians. Now also it seems to include again forgign state finance of political campaigns.

A free society requires an educated and informed populace.
And that is why eventually we will collapse as a nation into fragmented countries like the EU.
And the 100 year plan will be achieved.

In my belief you're right, the problem is a mix of media and the idea of what's "average", to put it in perspective, the "average American" stops studying after hs/college and well, they don't look to improve themselves besides in a majority sexual manner. There's a reason why people who continue to improve themselves will make at least 100k or above, as being average is being lazy, if you think of it in any logical aspect, also America is becoming less democratic and it seems like the "Average" person is starting to be turned to the notion of radicalism...via media and via the people around them.
 

ZedBoy

Active member
But I must add, democracy is still democracy even if businesses are involved. People have morals and people have views... simply, you can see that... anti-gun groups will pay democrats and pro gun will pay republicans...why...well because it's the values align with the company/corp, same thing with sponsorships, so basically... for a "free" system, corperations will always have an impact on politics, but it's up to the people to vote the view they want in...because it's common sense, people will always do something for money and advocate for something for the right price, we have the most secure system...aka the triangle of power...separation of powers and the ability for dems/repbulicsan to contest each other, and if you think in any way radicals aren't good...they are, because they are an extreme person who will vote down the opponent's view, which makes it more contestable.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Once Biden is in office this will all fade away. Trump if he decides to can still pursue a political career (doubt it he, is to selfish). But Americans are to dumb, lazy, and easily distracted or persuaded to pay attention to one thing to long especially if the climax of the situation is over. So again once Biden takes office you can count on this all just fading into history.
 
Top