COVID-19 July, 2020

RiffRaff

DEFCON Staff
Staff member
Starting a new thread for this since cases are starting to go exponential again and a couple of states are starting to close things down again.

Arizona governor orders bars, clubs, and gyms closed for 30 days. He also pushed school start date back to mid-August.
 

Obreid

Power Poster
Perspective on the uptick in cases recently.


We knew, or should have known that the Wuhan virus was not going away or had not been contained.
With the restrictions lifted and progression of time a increase in cases was absolutely going to happen.
The question of if/when a vaccine is released remains unknown.
The mutation rate of the virus is going to remain high just because of its structural interactions with a population with no herd immunity. More people infected even mildly the more mutations we’ll see.
More mutations = less effective vaccine.

Do not be supprised or panicked because there is a spike in cases and or hospitalizations.

As I heard one researcher sumerize the other day. Mankind has returned to the late 19th century where there was a host of bacteria viruses and illnesses that a person or region could become infected with and there was little that doctors could do and people died at unpleasant rates.
This is where we’re at he said with the Wuhan virus. Not in the sense doctors had no options to treat. But in the reality widespread prevention was not going to exists for the near future and that people will need to adjust to this uncomfortable reality
 

KimPossible

Power Poster
I watch CNN every morning on my TV. They have mentioned at least eight times within an hour that Houston hospitals have no more ICU beds, infection rates have never been higher since the pandemic started and much more.

Buckle up kids it's about to get down FurReal again.

Also CNN is reporting that people who are coming in sick with this virus are ten times sicker than what they saw two months ago.
 

KimPossible

Power Poster
Also I kind of predicted the second wave was going to happen quickly because of all the protests and riots.

Not a single riot or protester stayed within six feet of each other at least not what I saw on any video.

Lastly CNN is also talking about the new strain of swine flu coming from China too.
 
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CreepyMonkey

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Having suffered through the CCP virus the first wave, I can say with authority that if you do get it, (and survive) prepare to suffer for months. I am still dealing with the damage it did to my lungs. They hurt all the time and there are all sorts of wonderful side effects from it, like having to cough so hard you puke. That's an almost daily thing.

So yeah, not something you want to get.
 

RiffRaff

DEFCON Staff
Staff member
Residents from Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Utah, Texas, California, Georgia, Iowa, Idaho, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, and Tennessee, all subject to mandatory 14-day quarantine if traveling to New York. The quarantine also applies to New York residents returning from visiting any of those states.
 

Obreid

Power Poster
ZeroHedge is not considered a reliable source of information, just FYI. Take anything you read from them with a huge grain of salt.
Absolutely zero hedge can post some questionable news sources. Their an aggregator of sorts like us here.

When the story is referencing a CNBC interview of the director of the Methodist hospital I tend to give it a little leeway.

Did The link to the source not go through?

That said, Twitter does not set the standard for what is trusted news source for me.
CNBC is one of the few mainstream news sources to trust.

“Additionally, as CNBC reports, Boom says Houston Methodist has the necessary capacity to handle the Covid-19 outbreak, echoing similar comments on CNBC Friday from Dr. David Callender, CEO of Memorial Hermann Health System in Houston.”

So trust a story from CNBC or CNN doesn’t matter to me.

I haven’t and won’t my waste and time reading an anonymous source news report from MSNBC or CNN, Times or WP.
Seriously there are absolutely non-critical unsourced agenda driven propaganda. Good lord MSNBS anchor commentator Rachael Madow came straight to MSNBC from “Democracy Now”. DN is more socialist and agenda driven than Sputnik or RT.

If my commentary about the virus not going away was flippant I apologize.
My spouse and I have lived with Multiple major/eventually life ending illness.

She checks 3/4 of the high risk groups associate with this pandemic. She Only misses the 4th because it’s difficult to keep her weight above 100lb.

Personally I have become too pragmatic and accustomed to sickness and death.
I just assume life is full of physical suffering and knowing death is always - always around the corner.
The Wuhan virus isn’t going away, never thought it was. It’s going to move through the whole dam population eventually.
There has been no successful vaccines for any SARS type virus ever so don’t expect one for this soon
The control measures never said they would stop covid. Only control it so hospitals would not be overrun.
Having realized this reality since early March my wife and I choose to get out and live. If she catches it she very well will die from it, That’s just life. What are you going to do.
 

willrod1989

Well-known member
Also I kind of predicted the second wave was going to happen quickly because of all the protests and riots.

Not a single riot or protester stayed within six feet of each other at least not what I saw on any video.

Lastly CNN is also talking about the new strain of swine flu coming from China too.
Hey guys, sorry I've been busy with work lately. I'll have a full update on the situation here in California soon, but I figured I should give some clarity as to what I've noticed here locally in the Bay Area.

So far, we haven't even left the first wave, much less entered a second wave. Most of the surge in cases, at least here in California, appears to be from young adults, mostly under the age of 30. We began to notice many clusters that were linked mostly to the Memorial Day holiday, almost all from people who traveled to crowded areas in and around Los Angeles. Most of the patients reported attending large family gatherings, the majority of which were indoors, and linked to other patients in the Los Angeles area who ultimately tested positive.

So far, it appears that the protests are having a minimal impact on virus transmission at this time. Every time we detect a patient who is positive for SARS-CoV-2, we go through a standard epidemiological questionnaire, including asking if they have attended any recent protests or rallies, or spent any time in crowded outdoor settings. Here in Santa Clara County, even with large protests, we have only detected six positive cases linked to protests. It appears that this virus does not transmit very easily in outdoor settings.

As for the swine flu out of China, well, I have been reading reports on that as well, but I don't have a lot of reliable information on that from official or unofficial sources (I have a few contacts in several countries, including China). I can give you guys a more detailed run-down of things tomorrow. But, unfortunately, I need to get some sleep after a long day! I hope everyone is staying safe and healthy.

-Will
 

RiffRaff

DEFCON Staff
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Authorities will lock down more than 300,000 people in suburbs north of Melbourne for a month from late on Wednesday to contain the risk of infection after two weeks of double-digit rises in new coronavirus cases in Australia's second most populous state.
 

KimPossible

Power Poster
A total of 22 states have changed or paused reopening plans because of spikes in coronavirus cases, and bars have come in for particular attention.

 

KimPossible

Power Poster
Atlanta-area county urges residents to wear a mask in emergency alert

Some residents in the Atlanta area received a public safety alert on their phones this morning, during them to wear a mask when they're outside and to stay home when possible.

The alert from DeKalb County also urged people to "get tested!" Here's a look at the alert:

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KimPossible

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  • California's coronavirus cases top 240,000
  • The first US clinical trial for a vaccine delayed until at least the end of the month, researcher says
  • US immigration agency braces for mass furloughs in August as pandemic pauses services
  • Indianapolis residents required to wear face masks in public
  • New form of coronavirus spreads faster, but doesn't make people sicker, new study says
  • Miami police will fine those who don't wear masks in public
  • Herman Cain hospitalized with coronavirus after attending Trump rally
  • German chancellor says Europe is facing "the most difficult situation in its history"
  • Nashville mayor rolls back reopening and cancels Fourth of July fireworks display
  • Austin mayor considering 35-day stay-at-home order
  • Florida reports more than 10,000 new cases — a new daily record
  • People in West Hollywood may get a $300 citation if they don't wear masks
  • Scotland will lock down some areas to contain regional coronavirus outbreak
-CNN LIVE UPDATES
(Color coded so easier to read & not just one blob of texts)

 
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Guest

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So they lock down what happens in 35 days

CDC antibodies test used to identify the covid-19 virus also flags a broad spectrum of corona virus, including the common cold.
 
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Guest

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TDPH public screening reports antibodies testing according to their own dashboard. (See below)

The unknown in the uptick in cases seen currently is it from antibody testing or confirmed with virology test.
Are these states and cdc still reporting inflated numbers of Covid-19 infections based on antibodies testing which are useful for screening but factually flawed for accurate reporting of Covid infections.
An antibodies pos means you’ve been exposed to any corona virus including a cold virus.
Only a virology test can determine with reasonable certainty if an individual has covid-19
The dash board only indicates antibodies test results so there is no way to know if the spike is due to actual increase in covid-19 infections or increased testing is netting all covid type viruses. https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/coronavirus/testing.aspx
 
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Orius

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The site worldometer registered over 200k infections within 24 hours for the first time since outbreak.
 

Travis The Dragon

Well-known member
Something is very strange. In the USA, back when there were around 20,000 cases a day, the number of deaths per day was about 1,000 or so. Now the number of cases per day has more than doubled, however the number of deaths per day is under 300! Any thoughts or explanation on that?

 
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