Effects of distillation on radioisotope contaminated water

Yingyang

Well-known member
Great question ,maybe reduce heat. Water steams before it boils,whether it reduces radioactive isotopes or not,I don't know?oxygen is a funny thing it contributes to making cancers grow faster and some food break down quicker.Yet chlorine apparently evaporates faster than water?Hopefully anyone who could correct me on these may have our answer?smaller amounts of salt water is transferred in steam but that amount is exceptable.
 

hrng

Power Poster
http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p919.htm
Survivors of a nuclear attack should realize that neither fallout particles nor dissolved radioactive elements or compounds can be removed from water by chemical disinfection or boiling

So looks like a no - earth filters would be the way to go.
 

Doc

Well-known member
Yingyang said:
Charcoal and sand?

A neatly covered up, good old well will do - so yes. How do you say...a drilled well(?)...will be the ace of spades.

Destillation will be an alternative to certain hypovolemic death, but notthing more. Thanks to Henry Louis Le Châtelier, Cato Maximilian Guldberg and Peter Waage: [I-131]g <=> [I-131]aq <=> [I-131]l (g= gas, aq= solved in water, l = liquid)

When you heat it up, the equilibirum moves to the left. The destillation will of course remove amounts, but not enough. In addition, you will radiate yourself in the process, as you will be exposed to radiation from the water you are trying to purify - and it's steam if something leaks.

If you think about it, you already know this. If it was that simple, the Iranians could very easily produce heavywater by simple destillation, as heavy water boils at 101,42 °C and regular water contains about 1 D20 pr. 41 mil.

If this is a post-nuclear-war question, I highly recommend storing for at least a couple of weeks rather than chancing on a filter.
 

Green

Active member
Doc said:
Yingyang said:
Charcoal and sand?

A neatly covered up, good old well will do - so yes. How do you say...a drilled well(?)...will be the ace of spades.

Destillation will be an alternative to certain hypovolemic death, but notthing more. Thanks to Henry Louis Le Châtelier, Cato Maximilian Guldberg and Peter Waage: [I-131]g <=> [I-131]aq <=> [I-131]l (g= gas, aq= solved in water, l = liquid)

When you heat it up, the equilibirum moves to the left. The destillation will of course remove amounts, but not enough. In addition, you will radiate yourself in the process, as you will be exposed to radiation from the water you are trying to purify - and it's steam if something leaks.

If you think about it, you already know this. If it was that simple, the Iranians could very easily produce heavywater by simple destillation, as heavy water boils at 101,42 °C and regular water contains about 1 D20 pr. 41 mil.

If this is a post-nuclear-war question, I highly recommend storing for at least a couple of weeks rather than chancing on a filter.

Thank you doc, you are certainly for lack of a better term the "smart guy" of this forum.
What about reverse osmosis? I'm pretty sure our nuclear carriers use RSO?
 

Doc

Well-known member
Green said:
Doc said:
Yingyang said:
Charcoal and sand?

A neatly covered up, good old well will do - so yes. How do you say...a drilled well(?)...will be the ace of spades.

Destillation will be an alternative to certain hypovolemic death, but notthing more. Thanks to Henry Louis Le Châtelier, Cato Maximilian Guldberg and Peter Waage: [I-131]g <=> [I-131]aq <=> [I-131]l (g= gas, aq= solved in water, l = liquid)

When you heat it up, the equilibirum moves to the left. The destillation will of course remove amounts, but not enough. In addition, you will radiate yourself in the process, as you will be exposed to radiation from the water you are trying to purify - and it's steam if something leaks.

If you think about it, you already know this. If it was that simple, the Iranians could very easily produce heavywater by simple destillation, as heavy water boils at 101,42 °C and regular water contains about 1 D20 pr. 41 mil.

If this is a post-nuclear-war question, I highly recommend storing for at least a couple of weeks rather than chancing on a filter.

Thank you doc, you are certainly for lack of a better term the "smart guy" of this forum.
What about reverse osmosis? I'm pretty sure our nuclear carriers use RSO?

That's would be the golden standard. If you happen to have such a membrane lieing around, mount it in a tub, add contaminated water on one side, and salt and water on the other. The salt will pull the water molecules to it (osmotic pressure), while your membrane stops larger stuff, such as radio-isotopes, from escaping across.

Then destill your now de-contaminated saltwater. If you don't have access to lab/military quality equipment, however, I'd go for digging a well instead. Unless you are in an inner city. But then water wouldn't be the most imminent problem. Getting an AA12 would be more important.

As for the "smart guy" assessment, I ought to say thank you I guess, but just as I keep nagging that Kim isn't crazy, I will keep nagging that there isn't really a difference in intelligence between people, it's just a matter of what we spend our time doing. The best car mechanics I have met in my life was while I was working in prison. Some of the guys there had trouble spelling their names right and never made it past primary school, but whenever my car acted up, I'd ask one of them to have a look. They really didn't need to. They diagnosed it all by sound.

I was raised ascetic, so I don't consume much, and I live in a country were the Universities are free (yes, socialism has it's advantages), so I just ended up spending 13+6 years as a student because I had nothing better to do.
 
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