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Newsweek on Ukraine and USA DTRA CTRP

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Newsweek's London political narrative writer Ewan Palmer portrays USA DoD Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA)'s Cooperative Threat Reduction Program (CTRP) in Ukraine as providing technical support to Ukraine labs whose "mission is analogous to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)." [And I have a deed to the Brooklyn Bridge to sell you.] To be clear, per DTRA itself: "DTRA is the only Department of Defense organization focused exclusively on countering and deterring weapons of mass destruction and emerging threats."

So the DTRA CTRP does not have a mission analagous to CDC. (Eyeroll). And throwing COVID-19 out there as a cover is so transparent it is a disgrace; especially for a USA with nearly 1 million dead from COVID-19. And the idea that Ukraine labs are getting DoD technical support to just make them like "USA's CDC" is probably one of the most nonsensical things I have ever heard. You know... because we say so, see? (Please.)

There is real and important work that DTRA CTRP does in demilitarization of threats, protecting the world from Biological Weapons (BW) and Chemical Weapons (CW). And I am certain a role in Ukraine would be to help protect the public from USSR's past BW/CW development. There is a great book describing such horrors "Biohazard: The Chilling True Story of the Largest Covert Biological Weapons Program in the World--Told from Inside by the Man Who Ran It" by Ken Alibek and Stephen Handelma.

The pattern of lying because it simply becomes commonplace and normal is bad for public security and bad for world peace. Let's be clear that the USSR did horrible, horrible, horrible things. It is a public good to protect the world from that. We don't make that case by just working to be better liars.

www.newsweek.com

U.S. Biological Weapons in Ukraine—Separating the Facts From the Fiction

Russian officials are continuing to spread and old conspiracy theories about U.S.-run bio-labs in Ukraine to justify its invasion.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
I believe there is a real and valid reason for the USA DoD Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA)'s Cooperative Threat Reduction Program (CTRP) involvement with Ukraine labs, and there is no shame in simply telling the truth, and also providing context on the long history of USSR/Russia global threat to humanity. I believe Newsweek "spin" narratives do a real disservice on this, by alleging DTRA's CTRP was there just to support Ukraine creating "CDC" level labs. That is absolutely not the mission of the DTRA CTRP, which is really important work. And if someone has that as the idea for DTRA CTRP, they really don't understand that organization at all.

History did not begin in 2022. 30 years ago, Ukraine was part of the USSR, and per the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), Ukraine "territory used by Soviet government for chemical weapons storage and testing prior to 1991." NTI states Ukraine "Has not engaged in biological weapons activities since independence in 1991." "Joined a Cooperative Threat Reduction agreement with the U.S. to SECURE biological institutes."

https://www.nti.org/countries/ukraine/

In fact, there is real reason to have major global security concerns about the USSR's for BW and CW, including the horrors described in the activities by Biopreparat and other USSR BW, as clearly documented by book "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek and Steven Handelman.

www.ukrinform.net

Russian biological warfare capabilities are world-threatening

A country that breached Budapest Memorandum may do the same with Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention — Ukrinform.
www.ukrinform.net www.ukrinform.net

The Soviet Ministry of Health "(MOH) 2nd Directorate was the lead agency for a program code-named Problem 5, whose mandate was to defend the Soviet Union from the biological threats posed by highly dangerous exotic pathogens, whether their etiology was nature or the laboratory."... " a dedicated Problem 5 institute existed outside of the anti- plague system— the Lviv State Research Institute of Epidemiology and Hygiene, in Lviv (Lvov in Russian), Ukrainian SSR." [Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic (SSR)] (To those who don't know, Lviv is largest city in western Ukraine.)

 
USA-Ukraine - Agreement between the Department of Defense of the United States of America and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine Concerning Cooperation in the Area of Prevention of Proliferation of Technology, Pathogens and Expertise that could be Used in the Development of Biological Weapons -- DoD agreed "to assist Ukraine in preventing the proliferation of technology, pathogens, and expertise that are located at the Scientific Research Institute of Epidemiology and Hygiene (Lviv), the Ulaainian Scientific Research Anti-Plague Institute (Odessa), the Central Sanitary Epidemiological Station (Kyiv), and other facilities in Ulaaine identified by the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, and that could be used in the development of biological weapons"

What is best is to have the FACTS... not spin narrative on either side. The USSR did have activities that posed a threat in Ukraine 30 years ago, and that was true. And DTRA was there to control and demilitarize that Soviet threat, not to simply create "CDC capabilities" in Ukraine. The truth is much more powerful than information operations campaigns in the media by Russia or any other nation/activist.
 
Citizen-21 said:
Why do they need the biomaterial from Ukrainian-Russian region local populace?
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Too study and track bacterial and viral vectors, how the evolve how they can be treated, how fast or wide they might be spreading
Common this is basic scientific research and study. Level 2 containment

If and when something is revealed that is indicating a weaponization project then it will be time to get excited and I will.
But all that’s revealed thus far is supposition about what they could have been doing with the the Crimean hemoragic virus and corona virus.
You do know these labs have been public knowledge awhile. Why is it just now that they are being made a big deal of.
These labs have been in operation since 2005 why did Viktor Yanukovych not mention them sooner when he fled to Russia after the revolution?
It very suspect timing of this revelation all around
 
Obreid said:
Too study and track bacterial and viral vectors, how the evolve how they can be treated, how fast or wide they might be spreading
Common this is basic scientific research and study. Level 2 containment

If and when something is revealed that is indicating a weaponization project then it will be time to get excited and I will.
But all that’s revealed thus far is supposition about what they could have been doing with the the Crimean hemoragic virus and corona virus.
You do know these labs have been public knowledge awhile. Why is it just now that they are being made a big deal of.
These labs have been in operation since 2005 why did Viktor Yanukovych not mention them sooner when he fled to Russia after the revolution?
It very suspect timing of this revelation all around
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Agree. But keeping focus and mission clear reduces ability for Russian information operations. DTRA focus would be on total demilitarization of former Ukraine SSR labs, after Ukraine SSR breakaway from USSR. After that was done on CW/Bio facilities, DTRA should have totally stepped away and State Dept (or any other non-DoD agency) should have engaged. So if DTRA still involved, either they are still demilitarizing (which does take time - but 30 years? maybe), or DTRA was given a mission creep (not smart) to improve "civilian" focus. Either way, the reason DTRA was there was to demilitarize Ukraine SSR labs. Anything beyond that takes the entire story out of context, which I think Newsweek fumbled on, by missing the lede.

And by the way, as USA should have learned around the world, DoD's mission is not to build foreign civilian capabilities. Sure the ACOE can assist in dams, etc., in emergencies, but foreign civilian capability building and DoD mission are totally separate.
 
Obreid said:
Too study and track bacterial and viral vectors, how the evolve how they can be treated, how fast or wide they might be spreading
Common this is basic scientific research and study. Level 2 containment

If and when something is revealed that is indicating a weaponization project then it will be time to get excited and I will.
But all that’s revealed thus far is supposition about what they could have been doing with the the Crimean hemoragic virus and corona virus.
You do know these labs have been public knowledge awhile. Why is it just now that they are being made a big deal of.
These labs have been in operation since 2005 why did Viktor Yanukovych not mention them sooner when he fled to Russia after the revolution?
It very suspect timing of this revelation all around
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A virus in a tundra climate will act differently and evolve from a tropical climate.
 
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