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Putin to Visit India Amid Trump-India Tarrif Tensions

India still (wisely) playing both sides.
While clearly displaying that their government holds no morals. The world will remember this when Pakistan invades and India is crying wolf about their sovereignty while still supporting Nazi Germany 2.0 ...
 
While clearly displaying that their government holds no morals. The world will remember this when Pakistan invades and India is crying wolf about their sovereignty while still supporting Nazi Germany 2.0 ...
Personally, I do not agree with the support for Russia. I've been a vocal advocate for Ukraine. However, I will also reiterate that sometimes you need someone who can reach out to the adversary. And... often you're left with no choice. 5.6 million barrels of oil per day, if you cut out Russia, how is India going to power their cities? Back-end channels and diplomacy are required. This position was perfectly summed up by the last U.S. Ambassador to India.

Also.... not quite sure why you're bringing up Pakistan here. I don't think it's relevant. The West has historically armed Pakistan & left a deep distrust between India & the U.S. that is still being repaired and worked on to this day. Remember, Pakistan has F-16s, not us. We're a nuclear power & don't have to worry about invasion.


This outrage is selective. Where's the 50% tariff on China? Or on Turkey or the European Union? Or on the U.S. themselves buying uranium from Russia? You can't call us out for doing something while the rest of the world does the same thing. Don't single us out. The pot is calling the kettle black.
Read my other posts in the Trump tariffs thread to see the logic behind my position.

 
Personally, I do not agree with the support for Russia. I've been a vocal advocate for Ukraine. However, I will also reiterate that sometimes you need someone who can reach out to the adversary. And... often you're left with no choice. 5.6 million barrels of oil per day, if you cut out Russia, how is India going to power their cities? Back-end channels and diplomacy are required. This position was perfectly summed up by the last U.S. Ambassador to India.

Also.... not quite sure why you're bringing up Pakistan here. I don't think it's relevant. The West has historically armed Pakistan & left a deep distrust between India & the U.S. that is still being repaired and worked on to this day. Remember, Pakistan has F-16s, not us. We're a nuclear power & don't have to worry about invasion.


This outrage is selective. Where's the 50% tariff on China? Or on Turkey or the European Union? Or on the U.S. themselves buying uranium from Russia? You can't call us out for doing something while the rest of the world does the same thing. Don't single us out. The pot is calling the kettle black.
Read my other posts in the Trump tariffs thread to see the logic behind my position.

Those tariffs should be taking place for all countries dealing in Russian LNG and crude IMO. Especially for those in the EU. So we are in agreement that the outrage is selective when we are talking about the official position of western governments, It's been honestly pretty disheartening to see how the USA has failed to restart its energy sector to successfully fill the void of Russian LNG and crude, I'm still hopeful but you are right that we have not done enough to provide an offramp before tariffs, If China didn't have such a stranglehold on our economy I believe we would be pushing the same tariffs on them that India is facing in regard to the oil. Trump has hinted at it, and witkoff has placated the idea because he is a china fearing
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And once again you are right about our arming of Pakistan, absolutely horrible strategic decision primarily at the fault of Richard Nixon. Both sides will have to make some sacrifices if we are to come to any kind of understanding.
 
While clearly displaying that their government holds no morals. The world will remember this when Pakistan invades and India is crying wolf about their sovereignty while still supporting Nazi Germany 2.0 ...
No comment on their moral stand. Only looking at their own self-interest.
 
No comment on their moral stand. Only looking at their own self-interest.
I'd argue that kind of mentality has led to the very problem our world is facing right now. No one seems to care about anyone but themselves. That goes for nation states and the ordinary joe from the right or the left.
 
I'd argue that kind of mentality has led to the very problem our world is facing right now.
I think I wasn't clear. I am not arguing an amoral position for India or any country. I was speaking as DEFCON Warning System. We do not take a moral or political position. We simply analyze and report.

India is playing both sides. From their standpoint, it is wise. That way they don't get drawn into a conflict.

You want my moral opinion? Russia should be completely boycotted and cut off wholly and completely. No food, no supplies, no money, no business, no nothing until they get out of Ukraine.

But that is a personal opinion. Not DWS.
 
Those tariffs should be taking place for all countries dealing in Russian LNG and crude IMO. Especially for those in the EU. So we are in agreement that the outrage is
I though the current administration was doing that or threatening to if putin doesn't stop the war.
selective when we are talking about the official position of western governments, It's been honestly pretty disheartening to see how the USA has failed to restart its energy sector to successfully fill the void of Russian LNG and crude,
I thought President Trump was all about "drill baby drill." I do believe you are going to see the US energy sector really ramp up in the coming years Trump has in office.

I'm still hopeful but you are right that we have not done enough to provide an offramp before tariffs, If China didn't have such a stranglehold on our economy I believe we would be pushing the same tariffs on them that India is facing in regard to the oil. Trump has hinted at it, and witkoff has placated the idea because he is a china fearing
Pussy Ass bitch
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And once again you are right about our arming of Pakistan, absolutely horrible strategic decision primarily at the fault of Richard Nixon. Both sides will have to make some sacrifices if we are to come to any kind of understanding.
I believe this was a cold war strategy to counterbalance the soviet weapons in India. I do believe the US would be more than happy to sell India US hardware, but east and west hardware are not compatible, so India is going to have to choose a side. IMO
 
Again give it time it will work it’s self out.
We won’t get everything we might have on the Christmas wish list.
And India won’t destroy their economy by arbitrarily cutting off all Russian oil. At least in the near term. India destroying their economy is a net negative for the US geopolitical aims.

I have only argued that it is not unreasonable for the US to have some expectations from other nations who do a lot of foreign trade with us.

It’s international geopolitics, you jab, you weave, you make concessions, provide alternatives.
Don’t make it personal, because none of it is. It’s just nations trying to lookout for their own best interest.

When and if it all fails, then swack-em
 
I think I wasn't clear. I am not arguing an amoral position for India or any country. I was speaking as DEFCON Warning System. We do not take a moral or political position. We simply analyze and report.

India is playing both sides. From their standpoint, it is wise. That way they don't get drawn into a conflict.

You want my moral opinion? Russia should be completely boycotted and cut off wholly and completely. No food, no supplies, no money, no business, no nothing until they get out of Ukraine.

But that is a personal opinion. Not DWS.
My sentiment is I wish we lived in a world where those were the opinions that drove our leaders to make decisions... Not what is good for their status quo. Wishful thinking that would most certainly bring unforeseen consequences but just tired of the lack of humanity from world leaders.
 
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Let's be honest, every country will do business with whoever best suits its own interests. It may not be ethical, but that's the way the world is, whether we like it or not. This often applies to personal matters.
 
Again give it time it will work it’s self out.
We won’t get everything we might have on the Christmas wish list.
And India won’t destroy their economy by arbitrarily cutting off all Russian oil. At least in the near term. India destroying their economy is a net negative for the US geopolitical aims.

I have only argued that it is not unreasonable for the US to have some expectations from other nations who do a lot of foreign trade with us.

It’s international geopolitics, you jab, you weave, you make concessions, provide alternatives.
Don’t make it personal, because none of it is. It’s just nations trying to lookout for their own best interest.

When and if it all fails, then swack-em
I agree. All a part of the game.
 
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