These people are monsters and Israel really needs to just take over the whole land they are supposed to have.bus struck by a Gaza rocket in Holon, south of Tel Aviv
These people are monsters and Israel really needs to just take over the whole land they are supposed to have.bus struck by a Gaza rocket in Holon, south of Tel Aviv
Realistically, there is no reason they couldn't get along except there are bad actors on both sides. I have many Christian Palestinian friends, and they want no part of these stupid wars. You have Islamic extremists drumming up trouble on the Palestinian side. On the inverse, the ultra Orthodox Jews and other radicals are tantamount to the Scribes and Pharisees in the Greek Scriptures, and they drum up all sorts of hatred as well. Don't even get me started on the Hasidic Jews who are just dirty and filthy people. You have to walk through a Hasidic community to get to the park fom where some of my family lives in Rishon Letzion. They are like what I call "white trash" here in the States.These people are monsters and Israel really needs to just take over the whole land they are supposed to have.
Does Israel really need to take all the land they are supposed to own? Do you talk about this:These people are monsters and Israel really needs to just take over the whole land they are supposed to have.
I disagree with that.All this is hogwash from the bible, which is a mythical collection.
Unfortunately, the bad actions of a few dictate the outcome for the majority. I've met many Palestinians who are outraged at the violence and seek a peaceful solution. I honestly wish that a two-state solution would work, as this would respect the needs of both sides. Ordinary people do not want violence.These people are monsters and Israel really needs to just take over the whole land they are supposed to have.
The big problem is religions among others. The holy places that we argue, both the Bible and the Koran, these books are just bullshit and there is a lot of violence in these stories.Unfortunately, the bad actions of a few dictate the outcome for the majority. I've met many Palestinians who are outraged at the violence and seek a peaceful solution. I honestly wish that a two-state solution would work, as this would respect the needs of both sides. Ordinary people do not want violence.
The bible is not nonsense. It is true and accurate. Only man's inability to apply it is the problem. Take for instance holy sites. The bible indicates holy sites are irrelavent in worship, so why do people cling to these things? "The hour is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem...true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth." -John 4:21-24 (It's actually a protection for true worshipers of God to not get involved in these stupid places anyway. A bunch of people got stampeded to death in Meron, Israel recently. People get stampeded in Mecca during the hajj. But these things do not happen in true worship, because "God is not a God of disorder, but peace." -1 Corinthian 14:33)The big problem is religions among others. The holy places that we argue, both the Bible and the Koran, these books are just bullshit and there is a lot of violence in these stories.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." ― Edmund BurkeUnfortunately, the bad actions of a few dictate the outcome for the majority. I've met many Palestinians who are outraged at the violence and seek a peaceful solution. I honestly wish that a two-state solution would work, as this would respect the needs of both sides. Ordinary people do not want violence.
Yes and I detect a lot of violence and hate in your responses as well.The big problem is religions among others. The holy places that we argue, both the Bible and the Koran, these books are just bullshit and there is a lot of violence in these stories.
Leaving aside theological arguments for a Jewish state and what those borders might be, the reality is that the modern state of Israel was founded on both those principles and the undeniable secular reality that their people had been decimated by genocide. Their arrival was not welcomed by existing inhabitants who saw very little upside in joining up with the outsiders. So even if one leaves religion out of it, there is not going to be a spirit of trust and understanding when it comes to these sorts of longstanding quarrels. There just isn't and I would argue that it would be the same if Judaism and Islam magically vanished from the planet tomorrow.The big problem is religions among others. The holy places that we argue, both the Bible and the Koran, these books are just bullshit and there is a lot of violence in these stories.
No, that's just my opinion. But what violence or hate are you talking about? If I disagree with a member here, it's not violence or hate. Maybe it's in my way of writing, I am not an English speaker by birth, I am a French speaker. So the words used may not be the right ones.Yes and I detect a lot of violence and hate in your responses as well.
Bullshit translates easily into EnglishNo, that's just my opinion. But what violence or hate are you talking about? If I disagree with a member here, it's not violence or hate. Maybe it's in my way of writing, I am not an English speaker by birth, I am a French speaker. So the words used may not be the right ones.
Well then how about animosity or anger.No, that's just my opinion. But what violence or hate are you talking about? If I disagree with a member here, it's not violence or hate. Maybe it's in my way of writing, I am not an English speaker by birth, I am a French speaker. So the words used may not be the right ones.
It has been suggested that if the U.S. abandons Israel, a lot of enemies of the U.S. would no longer have a casus belli against the U.S., since their main beef is that the U.S. supports Israel.RELIGIOUS beliefs aside the US needs Israel as a key ally or pillar in the region. So don't matter what anyone wants. Its whatever makes America safer in my eyes at least.
And that beef is not entirely unjustified. The land was taken from the people that lived there and given to other people, creating an occupied territory right from the start. The Palestinians also have a right to what was originally their land. And Israel has been pretty heavy handed in dealing with the Palestinians. Some people are accusing Israel of Apartheid against the Palestinians.It has been suggested that if the U.S. abandons Israel, a lot of enemies of the U.S. would no longer have a casus belli against the U.S., since their main beef is that the U.S. supports Israel.
Is this like the settlers pushing the American Indians off their land? This debate can be had in any land or country. The fact of the matter is, until greed and conquest is eliminated from the heart of mankind, there will never be a solution. A two state solution is like putting the Palestinians on an Indian reservation. We have seen how that doesn't work here in the states.And that beef is not entirely unjustified. The land was taken from the people that lived there and given to other people, creating an occupied territory right from the start. The Palestinians also have a right to what was originally their land. And Israel has been pretty heavy handed in dealing with the Palestinians. Some people are accusing Israel of Apartheid against the Palestinians.
In my mind, the two-state solution was the obvious choice to eliminate the Palestinian/Israeli conflict for good, and I think Jerusalem should have been made the spiritual capitol of the world, not owned or occupied by any one religion but governed and protected by a neutral third party with no dog in the fight and guaranteed equal access to all religions. But that is, unfortunately, no longer a viable option.
No one will be satisfied with anything less than the complete destruction of the enemy.
We are the infidels. NO matter what we do they will always be after us. So regardless if we minded our own business they will be after us. Its proven because countries around the world suffer from terror attacks and they are not as involved as the US but are still targeted.It has been suggested that if the U.S. abandons Israel, a lot of enemies of the U.S. would no longer have a casus belli against the U.S., since their main beef is that the U.S. supports Israel.