The US Navy and public screwed again

rudemarine

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So back in the day Congress, yeah that group of supreme intelligence figures that couldn't lead a boy band once again screwed the American people out of a vital piece of national defense.

My case in point, is the best fast attack Submarine ever made, USN Seawolf Class Submarine. Congress complained that it was too much money, yada, yada, yada.

The Seawolf was a giant leap forward in Sub design. The same reason was given, we don't have to worry about a Soviet threat no more. Morons! Russia didn't just evaporate into thin air, it still had all it's subs and ships should they need them.

The Navy sold Congress on a less than desired Sub, the Virginia class subs. The Russians have now built a line of subs that will outrun and out dive the Virginia class subs while being just as quite and a lot more lethal.

The Navy now runs to Congress begging them to let them add a Payload module that can be used for adding a lot more missiles or they can carry Navy Seal units gear in them. Congress says ok well we can't be outdone by this new Russian threat.

So guess what this all adds up to? We now have a 3.4 billion dollar Virginia class subs that can't perform near as good as the 3.4 billion dollar Seawolf Class sub. The Seawolf has double the number of torpedo tubes and can still fire more missiles than the new Virginia class with the added Payload module!

Leave it to the Communist Traitors in the Democratic party and those who line their pockets with them to have our most deadly weapons systems get pulled over funding excuses. This was around the Same time that the F-22 funding was pulled leaving the Airforce to have a useless number of fighters to make them last long enough to do anything but protect D.C. and a few other important bases here at home.

Elections have grave consequences. Electing a Socialist like Biden, who probably couldn't spell his own name anymore and Drunk Nancy making plans to update the 25th Amendment to remove Biden and Harris together so she can have all the power would be the death of our nation.

China and Russia would demand the UN under their control be allowed to move into the US to secure our nuclear weapons if we could not display a true line of power, one that could launch a basic missile in minutes of an order from a civilian leader as a show of force.

It's time Trump be allowed to drain the swamp after fighting a coup for 4 dam years. He made our economy boom and got us out of a stupid conflict in Syria for the most part and is getting our troops out of Afghanistan. He put our so called allies in their place when it comes to NATO spending and has shown the world what China is really all about. He has so much more to do but at least he was getting everything done he promised to before the Chinese bought Democrats pushed him into shutting the nation down over this Covid BS.

Our economy will instantly collapse under a Biden win. It was in a recession for 8 years under Obama and his terms! I know my business took off after Trump took charge, the first week our economy was booming again.

The US Justice Dept is about to arrest a lot of people on the Democrats side due to the Coup against Trump, which should never be allowed to happen to any US President, I would not have supported that against any President but Obama because he was a Kenyan not a real American by birth and he even admitted it after he left office. Straight from his own mouth on YouTube from a speech of his in Kenya.

Vote wisely my friends!!!
 
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Why don't you just accept Biden is going to win, trump won't be able to win as the younger generation normally sways the vote in one way or another, the young vote swayed it for trump...the young generation, aka around the age of 14-25, want to be able to make money, we are raised taught we are the best at what we do and we are taught we need to do something great....those of us who don't normally have a kid at 18...16...and heavily screw our lives.

On another note going back to the main topic... What do we want..... We want to be able to go to college, we want to make 50k+ a year, Most of us are selfish... and one major thing with today's young adults is... we are heavily going against the military complex and the offers they make...I find this great for our youth..that we are able to think logically now and understand what the future holds if you do the "rash" thing...aka... Joining the military so you can "travel" or joining the military for "job security"... I won't say that's all young adults..but us as a species is developing quickly due to one of the major threats to human life is...war and violence...but obviously...if you remove violence from the equation... you have... accidents and car crashes and surgical complications and.... radiation poisoning and...well.... "Research" deaths... I'm sure you can interpret what "Research" deaths are classified as.

The majority of young adults today see a few things that we haven't seen in the past and we are developing from one generation at a time...aka...our kids will be smarter then us and that's due to "generational" development...you can compare us to the ai...some kids might not be smart or intelligent...but they will get through life...while the smarter child will prosper...


What makes me think young adults are getting smarter in the aspect of "local" threats...well one is military recruitment at the age of 16 in the American school system....
They tell us...we can travel...we get paid...we have somewhere to live...we get job security and the future prospect of a good job; though, the problem with that is... what's going to happen in the next great war...with a first world country....not a under-developed third world country...Well.. it's going to be hell for almost anyone in the military.
 
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Being in the military today isn't all safe and profit as the world continues to develop and the need for resources continues to climb...and it's apparent with the military-industrial complex...and with how much the price of materials is rising over time...and the price of jets...gas and vehicles and the cost of living...we are progressing at a rate where the dumb "young adults" can't sustain themselves.... and what...or how does it hurt the higher level of young adults who make good money? Well...it provides us less people willing to fill supporting roles...but if you look at the idea of... "The smart will always prevail" you'll see that...someone will always be under someone...which means...as the menial tasks of working fast food and working retail and supporting roles will continue...but slowly be phased out...buy sites like amazon and robots..but...you're going to say "If everyone is replaced by robots..how can we continue to keep jobs?"...well, that's the thing...we develop every year..and we have new "roles" created around every 10-20 years.....You'll simply be phased out..while the new "Minimum wage" is set by...the new low class...aka..I think it'd be like...Trade jobs likely, because they require education and they are the closest thing to the bottom in the hierarchy of education...

No education<Highschool, Trade school, Collage, Doctorate< Self-learning. The greatest minds in history learned a lot on their own...but the offers by biden fill the younger generation needs... We aren't all motivated by memes and motivated by...what's cool...we want to have a good future, we are willing to work, study and push harder than our predecessors, but when the cost of living continues to rise it makes it harder for us to push and strive to be our best...due to the fear of "Am I going to be able to finish school with good grades and continue to pay for my home...can I pay my bills...can my parents help me or are they going to go under due to having to feed me..but I can help pay for living", the cost of living is causing problems for a lot of Americans..not just the supporting low role American...for the middle class American...and the high class American as it's a full out attack to see "Who...needs to suffer more" Is it the poor person who needs to suffer, is it the average American...or is It the wealthy American?.. You can't force the wealthy to pay a higher tax because they strived and earned it... you can't tax the middle because it's going to hurt the middle and push more people down to the lower class..if you tax the lower class..they have even less money. What's free college and healthcare going to do...it's going to cause a market depression due to the fact...we are now having taxes raised on all levels and the cost of living goes "UP" but in reality.... everything will equal itself out..it always have and always will...what's going to happen in the worst case... we have a few low class people die and more middle class go to low class and some high class go to middle...but we provide humane assistance and more education. You'll say... well...that's like raising the minimum wage..and yes it is, but...it's for the greater good, it pushes the cost of living up..it pushes the "wages" down due to the tax raising...but..the economy will fix itself and the higher class with continue to profit in some way..and the middle class will regain the status as a middle class after some time....and if you really want to get into the idea of "This will hurt America" lets talk about what makes America money..... it's not unskilled labor...it's skilled labor... exports (So you can say some unskilled labor) but the big money comes from skilled labor...look at the profit margins on a doctor or a profit margin on a chemist or someone with a degree...the profit margins on a skilled job are more than on a lower-skilled job...and that's why they get paid more for there time.
 
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Meanwhile back on the military topic.. I've chatted with a few friends and they said the military is great because they pay for you, job security and well...they get to do cool things..but during the next war...they have a high chance of dying...because within the contract..even if you sign for 17c or 35f...you can still be forced into being a 11b.... it's in the contract you sign...no branch is safe from rotations of mos in times of war...if too many infantry die...they are just going to get more...and in that case..a draft happens after they move some people around mos wise that are (lower ranked) in said mos.... and well...now they have children and young adults who don't want to be in the military in the military...and we all know what' happens during that.....people run...people abandon...suicide rates go up.... people go wild and shoot up barracks and well... it's just not good because you have people doing what they don't want to do...and you can never force people to do what they don't want to do..and if you threaten them...with "Death" "punishment" or anything like that...the outburst is worse.. revolutions start and people get pissed off and hit back...the scariest aspect of a draft is... if you get some kids..who fucking hate this country....kids who don't want to do it...and who get forced into some crazy shit..they are going to snap and do something...it could be killing a person with a lot of time in the military....a person of rank or value...it could be running away during a battle or before transfer to a base...or it could be stealing and defecting... This has happened in every...single war...and it will continue to happen, especially if a draft happens...a lot of people in the military today (aka the young generation who went in for the perks) don't understand the concepts of war..how many die or what they are giving you this money... housing and training for...because when it gets real...it gets real..it's not a walk in the park-like most think... Your life means nothing to generals..."10k people died for this island...ah fuck we got the island though...oh shit...ok I lost 50k men..but I have 650k more under my command and we got a strategic point...tell the families the kid is dead...Idon't know the kid's name...Idon't care about the kid...I care about my check and my accomplishments.""

The only way to truly have America to continue to be the best economy is education and skilled labor.... every country that's poor...has a small level of skilled labor...and guess what..that's why if you have skilled labor in your country.... people like me will happily fly you here...pay you and make profit off you with a work visa...because....money is money if I make 40k a month off you...that workplace visa is worth it... and if I can pay you 100-400k a year to develop software/hardware...and I still make that 40k-100k profit margin off you...that's worth it for me...and it allows me to continue to run my operation... That's the reason why...we hire skilled labor and vets....why do I hire vets....I get around 25k flat cash...just to hire them...and what do I do with them.....I put them into lower levels of my operation...because most of the time...and we are going to be honest...they don't have knowledge in the area..due to shitty training by the military, so they have to have a lower level job...and I somehow have to pull profit...even though I get that 25k to advert to them. But I must say..vets most of the time have dedication...and we value that...and give them raises and bonuses...especially if they've been to collage...I've only ever had around 10 qualified people from the military... for a high level job...and oh wow....they went to college..with the money the military gave to them...aka 17c's 1n4a's 1n5xx's...but most of the cyber guys... they need more... "learning" if you understand what I'm trying to present...because...the military trains them weirdly...none of them have "all the power" they are taught for a direct role...after ait....they are put in "this" spot..and are told to do...what's needed in "this spot" and not another spot the same mos does...that's why they are normally excelling in one area..and far down in another area.
 
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Biden isn't the best...trump isn't the best...but biden is offering what the younger generation needs and wants....but a economical downturn isn't going to happen....it'll rebound like always...and the idea that one person will kill an economy is false...if reganomics didn't kill it... I don't think biden will kill it.
 
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^^ I think it should be swapped to politics...because politics isn't a "Good or bad" kind of thing...anyone who thinks that is a radical for a side...which hurts everyone around them for not broadening their view...and there's a problem with this teaching and it's passing down to American children, be it republican, liberal or democratic children.
A coupe is fought with weapons...not policy....and most of the democrats aren't even communist...if you take a deeper look into it, what the modern political spectrum is split into is... Republicans being for god..as always..being for work for what you get...and open for less restrictions on business...they've always adopted a "the economy will let itself work" (Majority of republicans)...oh and the rights to guns; Democrat's, on the other hand, is...more restrictions on business...which if you look at it..hurts both the person and both the company...more restrictions have always caused problems..... they have always caused profit margins to go down...and well... the pay to anyone that's not an executive. But if you don't limit the power of business..what happens, they tend to corroborate...like...many of us...and attempt to find the "Most effective...and most profitable way" to do things... aka...if you can work with your enemy and strike a proposal..to pay someone less "Via" non...traditional...mesaures... ex: Cuban missile crisis..politics between Kennedy's brother and a friend of grobo...We are humans...we are a greedy species and we don't want to help anyone but ourselves..be it business or day to day business...if you could save $500 a year...in groceries from buying from a Chinese market...I'm damn sure you choose that over a us market and dipping in for $500 more. Policy...is always...and never will be good or bad, it's a trade off, be it money for efficiency... or efficiency for quality of life...pay for the quality of life....someone has to lose and someone has to gain...it's exactly what you see as fit...not what the politicians or not the president. That's why...we vote for a candidate and vote for senators and vote for local govnt. You may get someone who want's to put more money into medical...but guess what, someone is going to suffer and not have as much...aka education...military....power.... It's always a tradeoff and you should understand that @rudemarine ex: It's exactly like comparing a marine to an airforce member...both do good things...both defend the country...but one has a diff role from the other and the ranking system is different and typically the view of the branches differ at that table that the president sits at... as seen in the cold war...as seen in operation desert storm...and that's why we have a mediator... the president and the SecDEf...both sit at that table and issue the plan...just like congress allows the president to stay in power...just as senate does the same....just as the legislative branch does the same...not everyone will hate the same person and that's why we have the triangle of power... Legi..Exeuctive...Judi, if they wanted trump removed..trust me...no party is safe from...unconventional measures nor measures that are considered "Illegal".
 
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