U.S. Aircraft Carrier Leaving Asia to Help With Afghanistan Troop Withdrawal

DarkNoon

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exactly like saying we should stay in Vietnam in 1974.
We left Vietnam because we where losing, badly.

WHAT I am saying about Afghanistan is not to stay to win no... we already won. We should of stayed just to keep the sphere of influence in the Middle East.

No, never said to stay in Afghanistan to fight a war that we already pretty much accomplished BUT rather stay solely for the sphere of influence we project just being there.
 
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DarkNoon

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Even a small withdrawal would of been okay. So long as we still have the foot in the door. But completely withdrawing is just the dumbest dumb mistake I think Biden will ever make.

Wasn't Obama's withdraw in the Middle East lead to the possibility for the formation of ISIS? 😉 but hey I don't know anything.
 

rudemarine

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We left Vietnam because we where losing, badly.

WHAT I am saying about Afghanistan is not to stay to win no... we already won. We should of stayed just to keep the sphere of influence in the Middle East.

No, never said to stay in Afghanistan to fight a war that we already pretty much accomplished BUT rather stay solely for the sphere of influence we project just being there.
We could have easily won in Vietnam and Korea but the political morons did not want to offend and then later slaughter a ton of Chinese in Vietnam like Korea when we should have.

We came so close to finishing off the bulk of the Vietnamese army in the first major battle. Had one guy inspected one tunnel a little farther they would have been exposed. We would have bombed them into oblivion and nobody would have had to worry about burials. It was only discovered recently how lucky they were.

The idiots in DC cared more about trying to appease the world for years while our troops were being slaughtered in the thick jungles. We should have bombed the crap out of north Vietnam till they had nothing left. You have to break the will to fight or you not going to win anything.

Our idiot leaders thought China would rush in to help Vietnam if we beat the crap out of them. That was a dumb decision as China invaded Vietnam not too much later after we left because they didn't like them either 😆.

So many problems would be non existent today if we would have let Macarthur hit those dam Chinese with Nuclear weapons for getting involved and killing our boys like that in Korea. The Russians would not have done crap about it. We had a overwhelming advantage back then and they knew it.

We had people still dying in Afghanistan every other day when they were out on patrols and at Forward outpost till they recently brought them inside the large bases and started negotiating with the Taliban. We Hardly won anything. We didn't control most of the country!
We only fought for what we cared about, trying to keep Pakistani terrorists out of Afghanistan, keeping women and kids safe yet our idiots in DC wouldn't let our troops put a bullet in a Afgan General and other Afgan troops head when they would catch them raping little boys. What a joke. Our leaders put our troops into horrible situations day in and out so they need to be back home. Obama had our troops being shot at before they could return fire.

The Taliban will rush right into every city in Afghanistan when we leave and claim victory. It's their backyard. You can never hold an enemy nation until you smash their will to fight and leave nothing left. Aka WW2 Germany.

We have bigger things to worry about and Afghanistan won't even be a strategic point to help anything. It actually puts our troops at a disadvantage since everything has to be flown in and through hostile airspace at that if Pakistan gets an attitude.
 

DarkNoon

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China invaded Vietnam not too much later after we left because they didn't like them either 😆.
Exactly we where losing the situation and the possible losses where to unacceptable for the US to peruse especially since China was contemplating heavy options and grew quite "interested" in the whole ordeal.

Not to mention the major press fallout since more and more Americans where able to see for the first time in their own home in videos and pictures of the "trama" created there from such a ground invasion.

But I am talking about Afghanistan... There is NO massive battle for land there. We already accomplished what we saught out for the most part. We need to stay to keep a lid on US projection in the Middle East and form a permanent military AND political presence there if we are to not lose two decades worth of work to make such a power projection in the Mid East.
 
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rudemarine

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Exactly we where losing the situation and the possible losses where to unacceptable for the US to peruse especially since China was contemplating heavy options and grew quite "interested" in the whole ordeal.

Not to mention the major press fallout since more and more Americans where able to see for the first time in their own home in videos and pictures of the "trama" created there from such a ground invasion.

But I am talking about Afghanistan... There is NO massive battle for land there. We already accomplished what we saught out for the most part. We need to stay to keep a lid on US projection in the Middle East and form a permanent military AND political presence there if we are to not lose two decades worth of work to make such a power projection in the Mid East.

We were not there for Nation building or the United Kingdoms ancient form of POWER PROJECTION. We went to kill Terrorist. Someone finally figured out that we already got most of the ones we went to kill, yet by being there we were only making more!!!! We can now leave and watch the ones we missed come back in and blow their asses to kingdom come via Drones or heavy bombers. No sense of wasting the manpower or money.
 
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