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U.S. retaliates against Russia, orders closure of consulate

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The United States has told Russia to close its consulate in San Francisco and buildings in Washington and New York that house trade missions, the State Department said on Thursday, in retaliation for Moscow cutting the U.S. diplomatic presence in Russia.

The announcement was the latest in tit-for-tat measures between the two countries that have helped to drive relations to a new post-Cold War low, thwarting hopes on both sides that they might improve after U.S. President Donald Trump took office in January.

Last month, Moscow ordered the United States to cut its diplomatic and technical staff in Russia by more than half, to 455 people to match the number of Russian diplomats in the United States, after Congress overwhelmingly approved new sanctions against Russia. The sanctions were imposed in response to Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and to punish Russia further for its 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

“We believe this action was unwarranted and detrimental to the overall relationship between our countries,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said in a statement on Thursday, adding that the United States had completed the reduction.

“In the spirit of parity invoked by the Russians,” Nauert said, the United States has required the Russian government to close its San Francisco consulate and two annexes in Washington, D.C. and New York by Sept. 2.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-diplomacy-idUSKCN1BB2CY
 
lcurle said:
Step 2 complete.
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If you're talking about this, we're already at 5 or 16

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I would say we are at an 8 on that scale. DPRK hasn't really issued an ultimatum with its nuclear weapons; their threats are always couched in terms of "we will defend ourselves from the American aggressors." However, I would venture that their last missile launch over Japan qualifies as a harassing act of violence in some respects.
 
Smoke can be seen billowing from the chimney atop the #RussianConsulate in #SanFransisco. (Via @RobertCHumphrey) https://t.co/5wJc5DDRnG
 
Russia's foreign ministry has said US security services intend to conduct searches in the building of the Russian consulate in San Francisco on September 2.
"Alongside the yet another raid on expensive objects of Russian state property, which [the US] have blocked and are now persistently offering us to put on sale, this time the orders of the US authorities pose a direct threat to security of Russian citizens" in the US, the ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a statement.

The searches will not only be carried out at Russia's consulate offices, but also at the apartments of staff who live in the building and who have immunity, she said.

To perform those searches, US authorities have ordered those staff members and their families, including children and babies, to leave their homes for up to 12 hours.

We are talking about an invasion in the consulate office and homes of diplomatic staff, who themselves are being ousted not to disturb FBI agents," Zakharova stated.

She pointed out that Moscow was given just two days to close one of its largest consulates which serves the needs of "several densely populated states." The movements of Russian diplomats and official delegations have also become more stringent, she noted, describing Washington's latest move as "unprecedented measures on restricting the work" of the Russian diplomatic mission in the US.

https://www.rt.com/news/401770-searches-russian-consulate-sf/
 
Does anyone know if this is just retaliation or escalation at diplomatic level?

Seems different to me and doesn't leave me with warm fuzzies. I don't have anything to base that on though.
 
Obreid said:
Does anyone know if this is just retaliation or escalation at diplomatic level?

Seems different to me and doesn't leave me with warm fuzzies. I don't have anything to base that on though.
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Well, clearly the smoke is from them burning documents they don't want the US to see.

Is this an escallation? There's a lot of pettiness going on. But on a larger scale, nothing is really happening that is cause for concern. That the US isn't terribly involved in Ukraine or Syria is a good sign. That Russia isn't signing on with North Korea is a good sign.
 
DEFCONWarningSystem said:
Obreid said:
Does anyone know if this is just retaliation or escalation at diplomatic level?

Seems different to me and doesn't leave me with warm fuzzies. I don't have anything to base that on though.
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Well, clearly the smoke is from them burning documents they don't want the US to see.

Is this an escallation? There's a lot of pettiness going on. But on a larger scale, nothing is really happening that is cause for concern. That the US isn't terribly involved in Ukraine or Syria is a good sign. That Russia isn't signing on with North Korea is a good sign.
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North korea is more complicated dubject. Russia sent some bombers close to DRPK and Japan.
See https://www.defconwarningsystem.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10608&start=9
 
DEFCONWarningSystem said:
Obreid said:
Does anyone know if this is just retaliation or escalation at diplomatic level?

Seems different to me and doesn't leave me with warm fuzzies. I don't have anything to base that on though.
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Well, clearly the smoke is from them burning documents they don't want the US to see.

Is this an escallation? There's a lot of pettiness going on. But on a larger scale, nothing is really happening that is cause for concern. That the US isn't terribly involved in Ukraine or Syria is a good sign. That Russia isn't signing on with North Korea is a good sign.
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Just moving pieces because it's their turn then:)
 
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