United States Walks Fine Line in Russia-Ukraine War

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The United States is placing itself in a difficult position when it comes to Russia and the Ukraine war, according to past and present U.S. officials.

According to these officials, The U.S. is providing data on Russian troops, tanks and ships. However, Ukraine is the one who makes the final decision as to whom to attack and when.

Information that the U.S. has been assisting Ukraine in its war with Russia, including intelligence on the position of the Russian flagship, the Moskva, and of the position of Russian generals on the battlefield have placed focus on U.S. involvement and the repercussions it could have. The United States has denied providing information on the Moskva.

Up until Russia began the war, the United States has publicized declassified intelligence about Russia’s plans. When the war started, the U.S. continued to supply data, but was cautious about what intelligence it handed over to Ukraine. The United States rejected accusations that it was instructing Ukraine on which Russian assets to target.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said the U.S. didn’t give Ukraine “specific targeting information” when it came to Ukraine’s attack and sinking of the Russian ship Moskva, nor did the U.S. have prior knowledge of the attack.

Psaki commented that “We do provide a range of intelligence to help them understand the threat posed by Russian ships in the Black Sea and help them prepare to defend themselves against potential sea-based assaults.”

As the war continues, there is concern that the Untied States will be unable to continue its attempted balance of helping Ukraine while not being an active participant in the war. Former officials have said that Russia is unlikely to see the U.S. as a non-participant, heightening the risk that Russia will see the United States as directly participating in the deaths of Russian soldiers.

Dan Hoffman, retired CIA officer who served in Russia: “The way [the United States sees] it, we’re giving them tactical intelligence — which is, there’s a command center here, there’s a naval vessel there. [Ukraine] make their own decisions.”

When it comes to Russia’s view of this, Hoffman says that Russia sees this as a proxy war with the United States.

While the United States as supplied weapons and intelligence to other actors engaged against Russia before, the war with Ukraine presents the most stark possibility of direct confrontation with Russia.

In April, the U.S. significantly expanded the intelligence it provides Ukraine, including satellite imagery and possibly communications intercepts. However, the United States clarified that it has not provided information to strike Russian territory nor military or civilian leaders.

According to the United States Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, “We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.” Russia has stated that the United States wants to see humiliated and cornered.


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So what to do, just flow weapons into Ukraine by the plane load and drag it out Till some semi-palatable ceasefire is arranged?
Or continue to engage the conflict with all of the non-kinetic military means we have to help Ukraine prosecute the war.

The US is not the only nato nation flying signet flights near Ukraine.

I point to the significant changes in policy and responses from the French and German government. As well as Sweden and Finland’s dramatic and rapid flip of a decades old neutrality position. Did so in the face of Russian insistences with their own security demands of continued neutrality. While they threatened of a militarized (possibly nuclear) Baltic Sea.

This isn’t a US policy thing.
How many of us could foresee a situation where Finland and Sweden would receive security guarantees from the US, GB and Germany.

I just posted a link from Schultz of Germany recent speech. “Russia does not have the sole power to determine the terms of any cease fire. Ukraine has the lead in determining what any acceptable ceasefire might look like, and Germany will support them.

The quicker we accept this war has already escalated to a Russian - NATO conflict and plan and act accordingly the more honest we are being with ourselves.

It’s not a proxy war anymore. From the way Finland Sweden and other European countries have responded so early on it probably never was a proxy war.

Addendum; I am not saying this from a hawk perspective. It’s just that no ones going to negotiate this out right now.
The European nations have seen something in Russia that they do not like or trust.
So the question is do they stay the course now. Or accept a temporary ceasefire. Where Russia can clear locals and hold a half dozen local referendums and call it good.
While allowing them to also regroup and rearm to only do it again in another 6 years.
I do not want a greater war with anyone. But is it even with in the US control to bring a halt to it? So the US pulls support, who thinks that means the fighting will stop or not spread.
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