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US Homeland Force Posture — Deployments & News

Peter Griffin

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Feel free to delete this thread mods, I was thinking we might want to start a semi 'reports' thread for current military deployments stateside as they could escalate into military conflict. Not trying to argue the subject matter. I just think a dedicated thread for reports on the current situation regarding homeland military deployments should have it's own thread, as any potential civil war that could arise from these deployments would severely hinder the USA's ability to wage conventional and nuclear war, and also effectively defend against exterior attacks.
 
I do not believe I can keep this civil. I will restrain myself. Maybe someone else will speak my anger more civilly.
The confederates said the same thing in the fall of 1860 and winter of 61.
They were convinced Lincoln was going to take their “rats” away. He was a usurper, instead of orange man it was the black republican.

If there are civilian protest going on that interfere with federal officials doing their job. There is limited authority to do so.

Did anyone complain when the NG moved into Washington for a month in Jan 21? Nope no one said a word
 
The confederates said the same thing in the fall of 1860 and winter of 61.
They were convinced Lincoln was going to take their “rats” away. He was a usurper, instead of orange man it was the black republican.
Immigrant and diversity make this country great, and make that city great. Not everyone thinks like you, or wants to live like you. The fact migrants get exploited is something that needs to be worked on but immigrants should be welcome here, and we need to work on making them less exploitive instead of punishing THEM for being exploited.
If there are civilian protest going on that interfere with federal officials doing their job. There is limited authority to do so.
You are being lied to, I know what happens in Portland because I’m regularly in Portland. I regularly consume footage of the ICE facility. I have been at that ICE facility. I have been face to face with the people Trump said he was authorizing “full force” against. I will say this because I have a first hand account and that matters to spread, spread the word they are lying. But I don’t expect the people who cheer it on to care if it’s a lie or not.
 
Why not label this thread as REPORTS or something like that, would that be alright?
 
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Feel free to delete this thread mods, I was thinking we might want to start a semi 'reports' thread for current military deployments stateside as they could escalate into military conflict. Not trying to argue the subject matter. I just think a dedicated thread for reports on the current situation regarding homeland military deployments should have it's own thread, as any potential civil war that could arise from these deployments would severely hinder the USA's ability to wage conventional and nuclear war, and also effectively defend against exterior attacks.
The decline of America continues apace
 
Why not label this thread as REPORTS or something like that, would that be alright?
I also took the liberty of changing thread tittle to somthing a bit more transparent/coherent or more suited to thread subject. Old thread tittle didn't really explain the purpose/niche of this thread imho.

Hope you don't mind.
 
I also took the liberty of changing thread tittle to somthing a bit more transparent/coherent or more suited to thread subject. Old thread tittle didn't really explain the purpose/niche of this thread imho.

Hope you don't mind.
Appreciate the help!
 
Immigrant and diversity make this country great, and make that city great. Not everyone thinks like you, or wants to live like you. The fact migrants get exploited is something that needs to be worked on but immigrants should be welcome here, and we need to work on making them less exploitive instead of punishing THEM for being exploited.
In the past on this forum I have acknowledged that those who have entered the nation illegally have been betrayed. They were betrayed because they were told to come, that the doors are wide open. We’ll figure out your legal status later.

It was because of this that not to long ago I adopted the position of ok, that’s not fair to those individuals. We needed to accommodate those who entered the nation improperly. Mostly in part because we as a nation had either ignored it, tacitly allowed it, or encouraged it.

We are as I’ve said repeatedly are nation of immigrants, made up of many. That it was infact this very thing that made us who we are as a nation and made us strong. And ultimately proved that the American system of a representative republic is the most resilient and progressive system of government ever.

That even now as we have this national debate yet again. There are those who cannot even differentiate or refuses to even discuss the differences between entering legally vs illegally. To enter by invitation, or enter because they can get away with it.
It is because of this inability or reluctance that perfectly Illustrates why it is I have taken such a hard line approach on the matter.

I find it heart breaking that there really are people who have come to America under these conditions. Never truly invited, never truly welcomed to the nation. To know they are trapped in this domestic political purgatory.

But the more that I hear and see this refusal or inability, to even define or acknowledge the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Is the very reason I have taken this hard line. Not even refusal to discus it, you yourself going so far as asking why we even need to have boarders.

Let me explain why this is, and it’s really very simple. It because we have seen this song and dance before.
“Oh they’re here”
“it would be immoral”
“they’re people like us”
“they are just seeking the American dream”.

Isn’t it ironic that an illegal has just as much a right to be in the US unimpeded, yet if two young Anglo Caucasian women want to open Mexican lunch wagon its culture appropriation.

To now hear this worn out song and dance rolled out again is exactly why I have said bullshit, no more!

The “Emperor is butt ass naked” and his subjects as well as the emperor himself are being lied to yet again by the political handlers of the day.

Here’s the thing, those political handlers know the emperor looks the fool.
They know the arguments put forward to accept and change the way we look at immigration or enforce our laws are specious and ultimately suicidal.
To now see these same emotional half truths scrawled on protest signs or amplified through loud speakers is embarrassing. That we have infact “been fooled again”.

You acknowledge the system is flawed but instead of demanding or proposing ways to fix the inequalities. The expectation is yet again emotionally framed with “oh the humanity”. We have to do something right now.

All while yet again refusing to address what is legal or illegal. Refusing to even acknowledge there is a difference.
Why is that? I would argue it’s not because one wit is given for the moral question. It is a much more baser of a motivation.
What can I get away with, what ways can I disrupt and force a culture or nation to conform to “My” world view and notion of a just society. Shouting, protesting, demanding, obstructing.
Those are acts of force, of imposing one’s world view on others based solely on who can scream the loudest and longest.


You are being lied to, I know what happens in Portland because I’m regularly in Portland. I regularly consume footage of the ICE facility. I have been at that ICE facility. I have been face to face with the people Trump said he was authorizing “full force” against. I will say this because I have a first hand account and that matters to spread, spread the word they are lying. But I don’t expect the people who cheer it on to care if it’s a lie or not.
Here’s the thing about this, “I am being lied to.
I know things are not as bad in Portland as some would tell me.
I also know that things are not as benign and self-righteous as you would say they are either.

What is unimpeachably not a lie is that ICE officials are there to execute legal and constitutionally sanctioned duties. You and others are there not to “dialogue or debate”. You’re there to impede and obstruct those federal officials.
No matter how much you spread the “truth” of what really is going on does not change those basic truths.
If you get arrested or hurt, I DON’T CARE!

You’ve made a choice to obstruct these legal acts, you accept the consequences. I certainly hope you do not get hurt but it is you who again are defending lawlessness.
and yes I know legality has nothing to do with morality, just as morality has little to do with politics.
 
In the past on this forum I have acknowledged that those who have entered the nation illegally have been betrayed. They were betrayed because they were told to come, that the doors are wide open. We’ll figure out your legal status later.

It was because of this that not to long ago I adopted the position of ok, that’s not fair to those individuals. We needed to accommodate those who entered the nation improperly. Mostly in part because we as a nation had either ignored it, tacitly allowed it, or encouraged it.

We are as I’ve said repeatedly are nation of immigrants, made up of many. That it was infact this very thing that made us who we are as a nation and made us strong. And ultimately proved that the American system of a representative republic is the most resilient and progressive system of government ever.

That even now as we have this national debate yet again. There are those who cannot even differentiate or refuses to even discuss the differences between entering legally vs illegally. To enter by invitation, or enter because they can get away with it.
It is because of this inability or reluctance that perfectly Illustrates why it is I have taken such a hard line approach on the matter.

I find it heart breaking that there really are people who have come to America under these conditions. Never truly invited, never truly welcomed to the nation. To know they are trapped in this domestic political purgatory.

But the more that I hear and see this refusal or inability, to even define or acknowledge the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Is the very reason I have taken this hard line. Not even refusal to discus it, you yourself going so far as asking why we even need to have boarders.

Let me explain why this is, and it’s really very simple. It because we have seen this song and dance before.
“Oh they’re here”
“it would be immoral”
“they’re people like us”
“they are just seeking the American dream”.

Isn’t it ironic that an illegal has just as much a right to be in the US unimpeded, yet if two young Anglo Caucasian women want to open Mexican lunch wagon its culture appropriation.

To now hear this worn out song and dance rolled out again is exactly why I have said bullshit, no more!

The “Emperor is butt ass naked” and his subjects as well as the emperor himself are being lied to yet again by the political handlers of the day.

Here’s the thing, those political handlers know the emperor looks the fool.
They know the arguments put forward to accept and change the way we look at immigration or enforce our laws are specious and ultimately suicidal.
To now see these same emotional half truths scrawled on protest signs or amplified through loud speakers is embarrassing. That we have infact “been fooled again”.

You acknowledge the system is flawed but instead of demanding or proposing ways to fix the inequalities. The expectation is yet again emotionally framed with “oh the humanity”. We have to do something right now.

All while yet again refusing to address what is legal or illegal. Refusing to even acknowledge there is a difference.
Why is that? I would argue it’s not because one wit is given for the moral question. It is a much more baser of a motivation.
What can I get away with, what ways can I disrupt and force a culture or nation to conform to “My” world view and notion of a just society. Shouting, protesting, demanding, obstructing.
Those are acts of force, of imposing one’s world view on others based solely on who can scream the loudest and longest.



Here’s the thing about this, “I am being lied to.
I know things are not as bad in Portland as some would tell me.
I also know that things are not as benign and self-righteous as you would say they are either.

What is unimpeachably not a lie is that ICE officials are there to execute legal and constitutionally sanctioned duties. You and others are there not to “dialogue or debate”. You’re there to impede and obstruct those federal officials.
No matter how much you spread the “truth” of what really is going on does not change those basic truths.
If you get arrested or hurt, I DON’T CARE!

You’ve made a choice to obstruct these legal acts, you accept the consequences. I certainly hope you do not get hurt but it is you who again are defending lawlessness.
and yes I know legality has nothing to do with morality, just as morality has little to do with politics.
The one (some would say only) surefire way to curb illegal immigration is to turn your country into one of those "shithole countries" (to quote a certain US president).

From where I stand it seems like the plan is working. 💁‍♂️
 
The one (some would say only) surefire way to curb illegal immigration is to turn your country into one of those "shithole countries" (to quote a certain US president).

From where I stand it seems like the plan is working. 💁‍♂️
did I hear this joke on Kimmel
 
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This thread has drifted off topic so I am closing it.
I just moved the off topic discussion to a new thread⤵️

Like the second you locked the thread I moved the off topic convo. Jinx. 😅

This thread has drifted off topic so I am closing it.
Do you wish to keep this thread locked still after I cleaned it up?
 
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