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USA to UN: Support "Military Action" vs DPRK or "Catastrophic;" Russia: "Unacceptable," "Most Frightening Consequences"

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"US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has urged for new international sanctions to be placed on North Korea, saying that failing to act would lead to 'catastrophic' consequences ... 'All options for responding to future provocation must remain on the table' ... 'a willingness to counteract North Korean aggression with military action' ... noting that nations allied to North Korea may not approve ... 'We must be willing to face the hard truths and mark hard choices right now to prevent disastrous outcomes' ... North Korea's deputy UN. ambassador, responding to Mr Tillerson's comments, said ... 'DPRK have already declared not to attend any type of talks' ... reiterated North Korea's longstanding contention that its nuclear program 'is the product of the United States hostile policy towards DPRK' ... 'will be possible when the United States hostile policy is withdrawn in advance,' he said ... Russian deputy foreign minister Gennady Gatilov warned that an escalation to violence would be 'completely unacceptable' ... 'The combative rhetoric coupled with reckless muscle-flexing has led to a situation where the whole world seriously is now wondering whether theres going to be a war or not,' he told the UN. 'One ill-thought-out or misinterpreted step could lead to the most frightening and lamentable consequences' ... 'There is a chance that we could end up having a major, major conflict with North Korea,' Mr Trump said
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/north-korea-nuclear-attack-us-un-warning-donald-trump-rex-tillerson-japan-south-korea-latest-a7708031.html
 
"The use of military force to solve the North Korean issue is absolutely unacceptable as it is fraught with disastrous consequences, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Gennady Gatilov said at a meeting of the UN Security Council ... 'At the same time, the use of military force is absolutely unacceptable as it is fraught with disastrous consequences for the Korean Peninsula and the entire Northeast Asia,' the Russian diplomat added ... 'The maximum use of diplomatic tools is preferable,' Gatilov stressed. He warned against taking thoughtless steps concerning the North Korean issue as they may lead 'to the most terrible consequences.' According to the Russian deputy foreign minister, the global community has been going through 'one of the most dramatic stages in relation to the situation on the Korean Peninsula.' 'It would be no exaggeration to say that the regional peace has been seriously tested recently while the risk still remains that the confrontation will lead to military escalation,' Gatilov noted. He pointed out that 'bellicose rhetoric paired with an unreasonable show of muscle makes everyone in the world ask themselves if there is going to be a war.' 'It is no secret that in the midst of tensions, any thoughtless step may result in terrible consequences,' Gatilov said ... 'Sanctions must not be used either to stifle North Korea economically or to deteriorate the humanitarian situation in that country,' Gatilov said. He said he means 'illegal unilateral restrictions' imposed by a number of countries as they adversely 'impact civilian industries that have nothing to do with the country’s missile and nuclear programs' ... According to Gatilov, such measures have seriously impaired living standards of North Korea’s population, which is reflected in United Nations reports. The Russian diplomat stressed that Russia is committed to the international sanctions against North Korea imposed by the United Nations Security Council. At the same time, he warned that such restrictions 'must not be a goal in itself but an instrument to push that country towards constructive talks on the existing problems.' 'It is impossible to resolve the Korean Peninsula’s nuclear problem by means of sanctions and pressure on Pyongyang only,' he underscored ... Addressing the United Nations Security Council session, Secretary General Antonio Guterres said a sum of 114 million U.S. dollars will be needed to offer humanitarian assistance to North Korea’s population in 2017. According to UN estimates, about 13 million North Koreans, or about a half of its entire population, are in dire need for humanitarian assistance."
http://tass.com/politics/943884

Russia then opposes attacking or sanctioning DPRK, and may be suggesting that USA needs to be "pressured" rather than only DPRK. If so, likely a reference to America's unwillingness to discontinue rhetoric/posturing and to instead negotiate, and USA's unwillingness to accept any of the offers which have been made to date. Clarification is however necessary to make that determination, but that appears to be the implication.
 
We need to end the Korean war silliness sign a peace treaty sayin the DPRK gets every thing north of the 38th and we pull our forces back to japan and sign a deal with south korea stating we will assist them militarily in any attack as well as leaving a small naval and aviation presence in korea.
After that its done no one dies we let north korea get nukes , guess what Pakistan and india have nukes and Pakistan was hiding bin laden and has open sympathizers with terrorist groups.
WE go to war south korea gets leveled by MRLS and artillery and probably gets steamrolled to bussan until we get our forces together and fight a massive counter attack and push them back leaving millions dead and displaced.

Guess what option I chose because I don't want to see troops dying in a war my grandfather fought in
 
rapidfire25 said:
We need to end the Korean war silliness sign a peace treaty sayin the DPRK gets every thing north of the 38th and we pull our forces back to japan and sign a deal with south korea stating we will assist them militarily in any attack as well as leaving a small naval and aviation presence in korea.
After that its done no one dies we let north korea get nukes , guess what Pakistan and india have nukes and Pakistan was hiding bin laden and has open sympathizers with terrorist groups.
WE go to war south korea gets leveled by MRLS and artillery and probably gets steamrolled to bussan until we get our forces together and fight a massive counter attack and push them back leaving millions dead and displaced.

Guess what option I chose because I don't want to see troops dying in a war my grandfather fought in

Or kim jung un could mysteriously die and the US could blame conspirators in the DPRK.
 
Diedrich said:
Or kim jung un could mysteriously die and the US could blame conspirators in the DPRK.
Over the course of DPRK's relatively short history, there have apparently been coup and assassination attempts against DPRK leadership perpetrated by USA, PRC and USSR. Not unlike the case of Castro surviving hundreds of American assassination and coup attempts, the Kims have proven resilient. It's then unlikely that Kim Jong-un will "mysteriously die" in the near future. Even if Kim were to be assassinated, it's important to understand that DPRK is an extremely stable nation, with the population largely loyal and sympathetic to the motivations behind DPRK's behavior, despite western propaganda. There can be no Euromaidan in DPRK, at least not under present circumstances. Though, normalization of relations and introduction to international cultures and western ideas through the liberalization and propaganda globalization could bring, might eventually change that. Anyway, should Kim be removed by assassination/coup, this would imply that a largely youthful and playful leader, concerned with fashion and films, enjoying life, may be replaced with a true hardliner. Likely, a military leader who has spent a lifetime contemplating war with USA/ROK and programmed by indoctrination to bear absolute hatred and hostility toward his life-long enemies, to include both puppet and foreign oppressor.

You should hope Kim doesn't "mysteriously die" anytime soon.
 
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