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UA-RU | Feburary 23rd-25th | REPORTS

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Train said:
Russia has only deployed a fraction of what they’re capable of so far, by the looks of it. We still don’t know the full picture.
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It is true, Russia is endangering the flow of their operation due to the task of no harming civilian populace. Their battle units are not firing even a tenth of their available ammunition/firepower amount they possess.
Because, well, remember the Syria, when Turkey has shot down Russian plane and pilot was caught and killed by local tribes? Small forces that were garrisoned to guard airport and near areas made the whole desert burn, it was hell on earth for them - because they applied all the ammunition on place available for that retaliation strike. Here, they brought the whole army but amount of fire is really low.

They are not even using cyberwarfare and EW capabilities in order to not interfere with Ukrainian civilian protection services - again, to reduce population casualties. Because suppresing such systems would cause chaos, civies can kill themselves in great numbers even without any shellings when the masses go out of control and in panic. I've expected Russia would start a blackout in Kiyv to cover up for their special operation within the city but there are not even such things present.
 
HavocWreaker said:
I was about to say, my concern is that Putin is deliberately holding his best troops back while using less experienced ones as cannon fodder to test what kind of resistance the Ukrainians can put up while at the same time softening them up. I fear things are going to get much worse for Ukraine in the coming days.

Hopefully the Ukrainians are up to the challenge. If they can't stop Russia from taking their country, they at least have the potential to make them hurt a lot.
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I think you might be right. I’ve seen people say that so far, airborne units aside, they seem to be sending the infantry kids.

I don’t know though. This clearly isn’t being done like the US would do things. The worst is yet to come. Maybe you’re right - maybe they’re just softening things up a little.

As a side note, anyone heard about “The Ghost of Kyiv?” Supposedly got a few confirmed kills today alone? Not confirmed at all yet so I’ll refrain from posting anything but it sounds cool.
 
Citizen-21 said:
It is true, Russia is endangering the flow of their operation due to the task of no harming civilian populace. Their battle units are not firing even a tenth of their available ammunition/firepower amount they possess.
Because, well, remember the Syria, when Turkey has shot down Russian plane and pilot was caught and killed by local tribes? Small forces that were garrisoned to guard airport and near areas made the whole desert burn, it was hell on earth for them - because they applied all the ammunition on place available for that retaliation strike. Here, they brought the whole army but amount of fire is really low.

They are not even using cyberwarfare and EW capabilities in order to not interfere with Ukrainian civilian protection services - again, to reduce population casualties. Because suppresing such systems would cause chaos, civies can kill themselves in great numbers even without any shellings when the masses go out of control and in panic. I've expected Russia would start a blackout in Kiyv to cover up for their special operation within the city but there are not even such things present.
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Maybe as things go on they’ll be slightly less careful about this.

I have to say, I was surprised to not see blackouts last night. The most I heard about was some cell phone disruption in the East. I know Ukraine is being helped with their cyber defence but even so.
 
Train said:
I think you might be right. I’ve seen people say that so far, airborne units aside, they seem to be sending the infantry kids.
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He is sending the best, that is for sure.
Train said:
I don’t know though. This clearly isn’t being done like the US would do things. The worst is yet to come. Maybe you’re right - maybe they’re just softening things up a little.
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This done pretty much the same way. But yes it is staged, they wait for Ukraine's answer and pound even harder if they refuse to comply.
Train said:
As a side note, anyone heard about “The Ghost of Kyiv?” Supposedly got a few confirmed kills today alone? Not confirmed at all yet so I’ll refrain from posting anything but it sounds cool.
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This one originates from the trollish Spanish-English language account. This story is not true. Apply logic please, invasion air force always operates in groups, MiG-29 wouldn't stand a chance in missile air fight against a group, let alone several of them. Let alone, MiG-29 can't even carry that much armanent to shot down 5-6 planes.
By the way, after the fall of Union there were fighting jet fights among Russians and Ukrainians in Ethiopia as pilot PMC's, Su-27 jets were prevailing over MiG-29's even then, now the gap is even wider as Russian Aerospace Forces have been modernised.
 
JPod said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1497025238009319426
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Good luck winning a gorilla urban war. Putin has lost any advantages. Only way he takes Keiv is if he levels the whole city. Which is also a lose situation for Russia.

Just a matter of time before every village, town, and city in Russia are getting large shipments of dead relatives being sent back from the bogus war in Ukraine. Only to further fuel the anti-war sentiment very well established already within Russia if those protests today showed us anything.

Can't wait to see how this ends for Russia, more so for Putin.
 
DarkNoon said:
Good luck winning a gorilla urban war. Putin has lost any advantages.

Just a matter of time before every village, town, and city in Russia are getting large shipments of dead relatives being sent back from the bogus war in Ukraine. Only to further fuel the anti-war sentiment very well established already within Russia if those protests today showed us anything.

Can't wait to see how this ends for Russia, more so for Putin.
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What are you gonna say if they get away with it for just sanctions in return? Good ROI.
 
JxshuaL said:
Why would turkey get involved ?
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Erdogan is crazy, they have had a very close relationship with Ukraine and sell them weapons. Other than that Turkey doesn’t want to see Russia take that big of a foothold to their north again. Will they stop it, probably not but if Russia really starts pulling a Grozny 2.0 then the entire western world will be furious and Turkey is the only one who could really kick Russia in the nuts and do something about it fast enough.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
How are additional NATO troops going to help Ukraine defend itself?
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"Ukraine's capacity to defend itself" may also refer to posturing. US is looking for a participation award.
 
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