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Shoot one, treat the other for long term syphilis. Doesn’t Matter which…..
Was satire. I don’t want to execute anyone, especially them and I have no knowledge of any brain attacking or disabling diseases with either fine men.
Remember sometimes the whole purpose of your life might just be to serve as a warning to others.
 
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Yeah yeah he wasn't fucking around. I was after reasonable opinions. But absolutely not shocked with response so far. 🤭🤫🙄😒
Sorry. I assumed with those two names together you were setting up a joke like s good straight man. I apologize for not taking your questions seriously. It was thoughtless and rude. I will try much harder to be better. Again I am sorry.
 
M2 made sense, could have been M3 CFV. I just wondered if they were getting M2A2 or A2 ODs or A3’s
A4’s are just being fielded so that’s unlikely.
My guess would have been A3, which you just confirmed 👍🏻 👍🏻 Thank You!
I took a peek on english Wiki, its the M2A2 :)
Hope, the Ukrainians willget a few specials :) 109 Pieces is just wow.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley (Listed in "Operators")
 
IMO, If these are M2A3’s (looks like it) and they have some advance western training and follow it, the Bradly’s are going to rack up some serious damage on the Russians.
They will take hits and loses, not some sort of miracle, but a very very potent adversary for anything on the battlefield. The German Maurders coming are no slouches either. For the first time in this war I have very high expectations for this equipment and its use.
 
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IMO, If these are M2A3’s (looks like it) and they have some advance western training and follow it, the Bradly’s are going to rack up some serious damage on the Russians.
They will take hits and loses, not some sort of miracle, but a very very potent adversary
for anything on the battlefield. The German Maurders coming are no slouches either. For the first time in this war I have very high expectations for this equipment and its use.
Lets hope the best. Bradleys are capable to take down at least T72 with their TOWs, Infantry and lightly armored Vehicles are no Problem for the automatic Maingun. Plus they're good for urban Warfare to a degree and can carry mechanized Infantry. All in all it depends mostly from tactics and teachings. Marders the same, they got MILAN :D even more spectacular against Tanks (hopefully).
Personally, I wish the defenders best of luck with their equipment and many succes :)
 
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I think their referring to having a problem keeping a lid on things to their people and own government. Having hard time with their false information/propaganda campaign but could be wrong.
Likely, and the fact that there are indeed varying opinions among the "elites" that aren't always spreading propaganda and information coming directly from Kreml or Putin. (Prygoszhin, Kadirov, various big milbloggers, etc)
 
Likely, and the fact that there are indeed varying opinions among the "elites" that aren't always spreading propaganda and information coming directly from Kreml or Putin. (Prygoszhin, Kadirov, various big milbloggers, etc)
To elaborate, this could cause a minor headache for Putin right now, but a migraine later.
Centralized information flow is key during long wars where the situation might change several times, defeats, big faults in the military and so on can be covered up, downplayed, or acknowledged and dealt with depending on the intentions of the entity controlling the information.
For example, if the letters coming from Stalingrad's German soldiers weren't censored, it could very well have been snowballed into a threat to the Nazi government itself, or at least a big dip in morale that caused even further defeats. Earlier, it seemed that Putin, or at least Putin-aligned people in his inner circle nudged the major propaganda channels in specific directions when it comes to the war, and even military bloggers that in many ways parroted what they said.
As long as there weren't any real differing opinions on how the course of the war should go among Putin's allies or personal conflicts among them, roughly the same information and the same "attitude" if you will. The information can also come from independent domestic sources and even propaganda channels that Kreml mostly nudge in different directions but are functionally autonomous.

However, considering the fact that an encrypted social media form that can't easily be censored (Telegram is very popular in the country together with various groups now vuying for the state's favour (Prygoszhin and other PMCs, Kadyrov), this informational domestic advantage the Kreml has had is weakening. Its still very big, but weakening. It would be hard for authorities justify silencing "trusted" individuals with large followings if they suddenly start to spread information that is potentially destructive to the war effort or criticism toward various leaders. Over the past months, Russia's MoD has been giving different information than Wagner about certain events, and with various big milbloggers in the mix....

There's big potential for a spread of information that will inevitably hurt the Russian will to continue to fight in very many cases because of this big mess of informational actors in various future situations. It may be because of power struggles between groups, individuals, or factions, or a major defeat that *could* potentially still be Lessened by Kreml, but if they fail to do so the blame will go in wildly different directions, and the narrative might slide out of their hands.

Now, I'd argue that democracies don't nessecarily have the same problem because of the fact that differing opinions are something to be expected, and the power struggles that do appear are not in the same level as amazingly corrupt countries.

TLDR: I think the Kreml is very concerned (especially since spokesperson acknowledged it) that interpersonal rivalries and other factors can start to disrupt the informational flow to such a grade that they themselves can't control it anymore.
 
I'd like to know more of what that means.
It's a summation of this statement from ISW:
Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Maria Zakharova confirmed that there is infighting in the Kremlin inner circle, that the Kremlin has ceded centralized control over the Russian information space, and that Russian President Vladimir Putin apparently cannot readily fix it. Kremlin journalists, academics, and Novorossiya supporters held a forum on the “practical and technological aspects of information and cognitive warfare in modern realities” in Moscow on March 11.[2] During a panel discussion Zakharova stated that the Kremlin cannot replicate the Stalinist approach of establishing a modern equivalent to the Soviet Information Bureau to centrally control Russia’s internal information space due to fighting among unspecified Kremlin “elites.”[3]

Zakharova’s statement is noteworthy and supports several of ISW’s longstanding assessments about deteriorating Kremlin regime and information space control dynamics. The statement supports several assessments: that there is Kremlin infighting between key members of Putin’s inner circle; that Putin has largely ceded the Russian information space over time to a variety of quasi-independent actors; and that Putin is apparently unable to take decisive action to regain control over the Russian information space.[4] It is unclear why Zakharova — a seasoned senior spokesperson — would have openly acknowledged these problems in a public setting. Zakharova may have directly discussed these problems for the first time to temper Russian nationalist milbloggers’ expectations regarding the current capabilities of the Kremlin to cohere around a unified narrative — or possibly even a unified policy.
 
It's always difficult for governments to produce a believable narrative that is in opposition to what's really occurring. At the end of WW2, Japanese citizens figured out the war was going badly for Japan because all of the "victorious" battles they were being told about kept creeping closer and closer to Japan. Control of information is even more difficult these days. Too much technology available to the common peasant.
 
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