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Totality said:
If I recall it takes 30,000,000 million dollars or so for the Russian to make the SU aircraft in question.
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I was talking about Bakhmut. How many people did Russia lose to take Bakhmut. I was asking what strategic value it held.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
I was talking about Bakhmut. How many people did Russia lose to take Bakhmut. I was asking what strategic value it held.
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If I remember correctly a few highway systems run through and above the city, Think taking it is partially for further attempts at advancements (if they can even afford to do so) and more so a political gain for them. You and I both know they’re (Russian) propaganda is gonna show a loss of a third of what they really lost taking it and to show the Russian people they won something against the “Nazis”.
 
Spyglass said:
What the heck is all this disinformation out there, seriously? What is the point of running a fake story like that?
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Well thats what the DWS is here for, help find the truth in the news or claims.

Better way to put it is DWS sifts through the bullshit social media likes to turn out and falsely label as "news" for clicks. :(
 
uamcplyr said:
Has anyone else see this or similar referencing the same?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660378742290800640

(Image depicting what's looks like a jerry-rigged device apparently capable of spoofing non-civilian aircraft/UAVs as civilian.)

Maybe I've missed them doing this previously but if not, and the above isn't more Twatter misinfo, seems like it could be a big deal :(
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I believe there has been a no fly zone over the area since the beginning of Russia’s invasion. The likelihood of civilian aircraft in the area are nearly zero.
 
Irag8er said:
I believe there has been a no fly zone over the area since the beginning of Russia’s invasion. The likelihood of civilian aircraft in the area are nearly zero.
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For sure. Was thinking more along the lines of them spoofing locations as well, it's a few bytes in the same packet. But maybe that's a stretch.
 

No love lost between Russian military and Wagner mercenaries​

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No love lost between Russian military and Wagner mercenaries

A threat by the leader of private Russian military company Wagner to withdraw his fighters from the battle to seize a city in eastern Ukraine is another flareup in his dispute with Russia’s regular military over credit and tactics. Millionaire Yevgeny Prigozhin has led the push to jump-start...
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Friendly Engineer said:
Ceasefire, DMZ & Border wall after a protracted long and bloody conflict.
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Ukraine feels like both Afghanistan wars, in how difficult it is to predict its end. It wouldn't exactly be surprising if it were to come to an end sooner than people expect, but if we're still talking about it in 2030 that wouldn't be surprising either.

There's some precedent. The official Ukraine war started in 2022 according to general commentary, but there have been war conditions in the east of Ukraine since 2014.
 
Simpatico said:
Ukraine feels like both Afghanistan wars, in how difficult it is to predict its end. It wouldn't exactly be surprising if it were to come to an end sooner than people expect, but if we're still talking about it in 2030 that wouldn't be surprising either.

There's some precedent. The official Ukraine war started in 2022 according to general commentary, but there have been war conditions in the east of Ukraine since 2014.
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This won't last 6 months. Once those planes are up Ukraine-Western allies will have dramatically bought it closer to the end. Impo.
 
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