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Totality 🌻 said:
But you can't eat it again once you eaten it. 🙄 So the cake is gone. Sure you can buy another cake but won't be the cake you eaten. Cannot have the cake and eat it too.
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Well you could eat it again so long as you don't mind eating it in its new form - 💩 (maybe I should not have gone there?)

I could argue eating an already-consumed cake again is a new use case not defined within the scope of the original proverb.

I think I am poking the bear here. Apologies. All in good fun.
 
teekay99 said:
Well you could eat it again so long as you don't mind eating it in its new form - 💩 (maybe I should not have gone there?)

I could argue eating an already-consumed cake again is a new use case not defined within the scope of the original proverb.

I think I am poking the bear here. Apologies. All in good fun.
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oh oh oh I just re-read that and a different interpretation popped in my mind. To be clear - I am absolutely not telling anyone to eat 💩. That was not my intent and I apologize if it was taken that way. I was just trying to say that a consumed cake can be re-consumed so long as you don't mind its new form.
 

Humans have three parts: Body, Soul, and Spirit​


This is called the “tripartite” nature of man. Much like the divine Trinity, the three parts of a human make one being. Though distinct, the three parts of a person work together to live, exist, and interact with God and creation.

The body is the physical side of a person. It touches the material world through the five senses of sight, smell, hearing, taste, touch.

The spirit is the spiritual side of man. It interacts with God and the spiritual realm through its own set of “senses,” things like faith, hope, and prayer.

The soul is the life of a person. It is the animating principle of a person, and is responsible for imagination, memory, reason, and emotions. As such, the soul serves as the command center for the person. Neither the body nor the spirit can function on its own; both look to the soul for direction and action.

When Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden, they died spiritually and sin corrupted their body, so that it too began to die.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, God promised to give a new spirit to His people (Ezek 36:26), which we now know was the “Holy Spirit” that came at Pentecost (Acts 2).

The Bible also says that in the future resurrection, we will be given glorified and incorruptible bodies (1 Cor 15:52). When that happens, each person will once again be as God intended and planned, perfect in body, soul, and spirit so that we can live and function as a whole, united person.

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Humans have three parts: Body, Soul, and Spirit

The Bible teaches that humans consist of three parts: the body, the soul, and the spirit. This helps us understand sin and regeneration.
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RiffRaff said:
Actually, the antichrist only needs the *appearance* of intelligence. He is, by every description, a deceiver. The antichrist doesn't need to actually be intelligent; he just needs to be able to fool people into thinking that he is.
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Trump it is 🤣😂🤣🙄😤🤦‍♂️idiots. Obviously this refers to Klaus Scwabb 👍 OBVIOUSLY.
 
william said:
Humans have three parts: Body, Soul, and Spirit
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What's with the thread necromancy? Are you trying to justify the comment you made in that other thread about how an artificially constructed embryo would develop into a "soulless monster"? :unsure:
 
Socom7 said:
What's with the thread necromancy? Are you trying to justify the comment you made in that other thread about how an artificially constructed embryo would develop into a "soulless monster"? :unsure:
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Yes. I don't think we should be playing around with artificially constructed embryos.
 
william said:
Yes. I don't think we should be playing around with artificially constructed embryos.
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Well, that particular one is not going to grow into a person, so you're off the hook for your quip and won't have to say these words to the kid's face. Who knows what the future will bring, however...

Btw., I thought you were firmly in the "embryos are human beings" camp. I guess it's just some embryos then... :unsure:
 
Socom7 said:
Well, that particular one is not going to grow into a person, so you're off the hook for your quip and won't have to say these words to the kid's face. Who knows what the future will bring, however...

Btw., I thought you were firmly in the "embryos are human beings" camp. I guess it's just some embryos then... :unsure:
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" I guess it's just some embryos then"

Correct, embryos conceived by a man and a woman. The way God intended.
 
If anything in these modern times the anti christ wouldn't fester himself in one person but as a collective mindset. Theologically and socially speaking our societies have continued to put less stock in our morals and ethical norms. People just don't have common courtesy anymore, and thats coming from an agnostic😅.
 

Miracles of Jesus: From Healing the Sick to Turning Water Into Wine​


During his earthly ministry, Jesus Christ performed miracles by touching, healing, and transforming countless lives. He overcame the laws of nature and even raised the dead, proving he has power over life and death. Like other events in the life of Jesus, his miracles were documented by eyewitnesses and recorded in biblical history.

The accounts of Jesus's miracles in the Bible represent only a small number of the multitudes of people who were made whole by the savior. The closing verse of John's Gospel explains: "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written." (John 21:25, NIV)

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When Jesus Healed the Sick and Other Miracles in Chronological Order

Jesus performed miracles by touching, healing, and transforming countless lives. These divine acts led people to him and revealed his identity and authority.
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The Lourdes miracle that brought a Nobel prize-winning doctor to faith​


From the time of the Blessed Mother’s first apparition to Bernadette Soubirous, the water from the Lourdes Grotto has been a source of miraculous healings, both for those who have visited the Grotto and for those who used the water in remote places. Since the time of Bernadette, more than 7,000 miraculous cures have been reported to the Lourdes Medical Bureau by pilgrims who have visited Lourdes (which does not include miracles that have taken place outside of Lourdes).

There were so many purported cures associated with the water and Grotto of Lourdes that the Catholic Church decided to set up the Lourdes Medical Bureau to be constituted by and under the leadership of physicians and scientists alone. The objective of the Bureau is to render a judgment that a particular cure was near instantaneous, efficacious throughout the remainder of life, and in all other ways, scientifically inexplicable. The Bureau is constituted of 20 physicians and scientists. Its records are open to any physician or scientist who wants to make their own investigation or challenge to any particular case recognized as “miraculous.”

Since 1883, only 69 cases have been recognized as “miraculous” according to the strict standards of the Bureau. But this does not mean that the 7,000 other cures were not miraculous by other standards. These cases simply cannot be shown to be completely scientifically inexplicable – though their occurrence could be truly extraordinary and possibly, or even probably, miraculous.

The 69 cases approved by the Lourdes Medical Bureau have been inspected by large numbers of physicians and scientists, and the vast majority of them have been shown to be permanent and inexplicable cures. A list of cures can be found here.

One of the most significant cases was the healing of Marie Bailly. Her case was witnessed by Dr. Alexis Carrell, and it eventually brought about his conversion.

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The Lourdes miracle that brought a Nobel prize-winning doctor to faith

Dr. Carrell was standing behind Marie Bailly when three pitchers of the blessed water were poured over her abdomen ...
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Russia Tries to Erase Evangelical Churches From Occupied Ukraine​

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ZAPORIZHZHIA, Ukraine—Moments after the band struck up a song of praise at a Christian church in a Russian-held city near here, Russian soldiers stormed in wearing full tactical gear.
One of them wove through the crowd, mounted the stage and told the congregation to prepare their documents for inspection. The service in September 2022 was the last held inside Melitopol’s Church of God’s Grace. The Russian authorities took over the building, adorned it with murals depicting their dead fighters, and converted it into a culture ministry in this part of occupied south Ukraine. The church’s erasure from view is part of a sweeping crackdown inside Russian-held territory on religious groups that aren’t under Moscow’s control, especially the evangelical Christian faiths the Kremlin considers instruments of U.S. influence in Ukraine.
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Evangelical pastors have suffered disproportionately. Dozens have been abducted, tortured and exiled from their hometowns, say Ukrainian and U.S. officials and clergymen. After his arrest by the Russians, the deacon of one Pentecostal church in Kherson region was found dead in a forest together with his 19-year-old son in the fall of 2022.

At least 30 Ukrainian clergymen of various faiths have been killed and 26 held captive by Russian forces since the start of the invasion, according to a February report by the International Religious Freedom or Belief Alliance, an international body that promotes protection of religious minority groups.

Religious analysts and evangelical pastors say the crackdown is part of Moscow’s broader push to assert dominance over every aspect of life in occupied areas.

“They have to control everything,” said Dmytro Bodyu, a Ukrainian-American Baptist pastor held captive for eight days in March 2022 by the Russians, who demanded he pass over all his contacts in the U.S. “If you’re a Christian, you are freethinking, and can discern what is good and what is bad. In a country like Russia, they don’t like that.”
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For Ukraine, the religious crackdown recalls the darkest days of Soviet rule, when the regime of Joseph Stalin arrested hundreds of Christian priests, destroying their churches or recommissioning them as theaters, clubs and youth centers steeping children in the values of communism.
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Serhiy, a member of a Baptist church in Melitopol, was detained by the Russians in early May. They asked him: “What God do you worship?” Each time he gave an answer they didn’t like, they beat him. They tortured him for 20 days, breaking his leg and ribs with repeated blows and using a metal device that delivered electric shocks. The Russians tore up a Bible his wife delivered to Serhiy’s jail, but he continued reading it to other prisoners, who he said found solace in its words.
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Several months later Russian-installed officials in the city published images of what his church had become. On its facade, the occupiers had painted the faces of dead Russian fighters and slogans predicting a swift victory for Moscow. The building that once hosted Christian concerts now hosts awards ceremonies and propaganda events, rebranded as the regional culture ministry.

For Brytsyn, whose century-old church was twice taken over by the Soviet government in 1939 and 1946, its latest reinvention as a monument to Russia’s war is evidence that the past has come full circle. “The devil has not changed his face, or his goals,” said the pastor, who now helps other evangelicals persecuted in occupied territory build lives elsewhere as part of the Mission Eurasia nonprofit. “They’ve learned nothing from history.”
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