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Middle East | DISCUSSIONS | Oct' 24 - June' 25

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Peter Griffin said:
Like fucking clockwork. Well I guess nobody really cares anymore about starting a war against a UNITED middle east. Here comes the most deadly and costly insurgency seen to man🤙This will absolutely not de-escalate.
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I’m pretty sure the Saudis and other Sunni nations are almost as concerned about Iran developing a nuclear weapon as is Israel. Proof is in them allowing Israeli overflight to strike Iran the last time.
Not saying Israel should or shouldn’t hit Irans nuclear program centers.
Given the total chaos and destruction of Syrian these last 8 years. It’s a good thing Israel kicked Assad’s nuclear ambitions in the nut sack in 2007. And that didn’t create an Arab Israel war.

My two cents on bombing Irans nuclear facilities, do it now!
Would be a decent recovery for Biden’s legacy.
 
OReid said:
I’m pretty sure the Saudis and other Sunni nations are almost as concerned about Iran developing a nuclear weapon as is Israel.
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Iran is hated by pretty much most of the Middle East. They sure don't want Iran to have nukes!
 
DarkNoon said:
Israel prepares Lebanon cease-fire plan as ‘gift’ to Trump, officials say:


www.stripes.com

Israel prepares Lebanon cease-fire plan as ‘gift’ to Trump, officials say

A close aide to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Donald Trump and Jared Kushner this week that Israel is rushing to advance a cease-fire deal in Lebanon, according to three current and former Israeli officials briefed on the meeting, with the aim of delivering an early foreign policy win...
www.stripes.com www.stripes.com
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Good to see Netanyahu really leaning into the whole evil villain arc. Easily showing they have been able to solve this diplomatically but are waiting to end the violence and save lives so they can fucking curry favor with Trump. If you can't see the evil in that I HIGHLY question your commitment to faith or any kind of morals. They are literally playing with the lives of thousands like they are rag dolls.
 
I think it's more a testament to Trump's massive influence. He's not even president and ally nations are racing to suckle up in any hopes he will do them a favor.
 
Ben Dhyani said:
In a speech last night, senior IRGC commander Mohsen Rezaee called for Islamic countries to form a huge Islamic army to fight the US and Israel and for an international anti-Zionist movement to be launched by Iranians around the world.

He also warned that Iran is preparing for "Operation True Promise 3" against Israel.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857531533306761340
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Dang, they are preparing to finish the trilogy! Will a missile make it through this time? Tune in!
 
To be clear, it was Hamas that tried to commit genocide against Israel.

Only the morally bankrupt would blame Israel--the victim--for fighting back against Hamas and trying to rescue the hostages.
 
DarkNoon said:
🇦🇺🇮🇱 Australia denies entry to Israeli soldiers!

Two Israelis who served in the IDF were denied Visa to Australia.

They just wanted to visit their grandmother, a Holocaust survivor from Auschwitz, ahead of her 100th birthday..
https://twitter.com/x/status/1867319705595163109

I don't like this user. But thought I'd share this. Shame on them.
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1. You post a source you question?
2. What was the official reason of the claim?
3. You brand without confirmation.
Shame on who? for what?
 
Yingyang said:
You post a source you question?
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Are you questioning if the claim was true? Here is one source: Asked about war crimes: IDF soldiers denied Australia visa - https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/12/12/asked-about-war-crimes-idf-soldiers-denied-australia-visa/

Yingyang said:
What was the official reason of the claim?
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According to this particular article, "Australia's Department of Home Affairs maintained that no new visa policies had been implemented for Israeli citizens in response to the conflict"
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
Are you questioning if the claim was true? Here is one source: Asked about war crimes: IDF soldiers denied Australia visa - https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/12/12/asked-about-war-crimes-idf-soldiers-denied-australia-visa/


According to this particular article, "Australia's Department of Home Affairs maintained that no new visa policies had been implemented for Israeli citizens in response to the conflict"
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Thankyou so this shows they were not flat out rejected for being Israeli soldiers. It was the soldiers that didn't fulfil their side of application and or the delay in correspondence that caused them to go home. Not anything near what DarkNoon would have us led to believe.
Appreciate the post. 👍🤝
 
Peter Griffin said:
Good to see Netanyahu really leaning into the whole evil villain arc. Easily showing they have been able to solve this diplomatically but are waiting to end the violence and save lives so they can fucking curry favor with Trump. If you can't see the evil in that I HIGHLY question your commitment to faith or any kind of morals. They are literally playing with the lives of thousands like they are rag dolls.
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Question how many times has peace talks or diplomatic efforts been pressed to try to peacefully find a solution for this issue.

Israel had a negotiated peace deal with the PLO and Arafat. Where did that go?
Out of the Olso accords Israel gave back and relocated several Jewish settlements out if the West Bank and all of Gaza. In some cases the IDF had to move settlers out.

So Israel has negotiated and has made material concessions at the expense of Israelis citizens.

What good has it done them? What good did it do Israel continually raising work permits for Palestinians while neighbors Muslim nations eventually refused them.
As far as I can see, none.

After Oct 7th israel went to war. That’s pretty self-evident. This was more than the Palestinians expected. They expected Israeli reprisals and what the got was full scale war. Israel isn’t fighting to bloody their nose, there fighting to defeat them.

Shit happens it’s horrible for the non-combatants.
But as a group for the Palestinians as a whole and Israel’s response to basically declare full scale war. I’m not moved at all. Has there been any contrition from Hamas leaders while they have hid like expats in other Islamic nations? Nope.

The Palestinians were sold a bill of goods in the fifties that all of what is Israel should be the nation of Palestinian. That’s why we still hear the chant from the river to the sea.

Sometimes an adversary must be defeated, not just repelled.
 
Yingyang said:
It was the soldiers that didn't fulfil their side of application and or the delay in correspondence that caused them to go home.
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That isn't what the article said. The quote from the Department of Home Affairs said "applicants may be required to complete supplementary documentation (emphasis added)".

Australia didn't say they had to complete documentation nor they didn't say the documentation wasn't completed. The statement was very generic and may or may not pertain to this particular incident.

Got to learn to read what is said, not what you want it to say.
 
Israel has announced that it will close its embassy in Ireland due to the "extreme anti-Israel policies of the Irish government"
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In May 2024, Ireland, along with Spain and Norway, formally recognised the Palestinian state.
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In October 2024, the Tánaiste, Micheál Martin, announced plans to pass the Occupied Territories Bill, which would ban trade between Ireland and illegal settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories.
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In November, Taoiseach Simon Harris said that Irish authorities would detain Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu if he travelled to Ireland.
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On December 11th, Mr Martin announced that Ireland would intervene in South Africa’s ICJ case against Israel under the Genocide Convention.
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www.irishtimes.com

Why Israel is closing its embassy in Ireland and what will happen next

No timeline yet for departure from Ballsbridge building the country has used since 1996
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com
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news.wgcu.org

Israel will close its Ireland embassy over Gaza tensions

Israel said Sunday it will close its embassy in Ireland as relations deteriorated over the war in Gaza, where Palestinian medical officials said new Israeli airstrikes killed over 46 people including several children.
news.wgcu.org news.wgcu.org
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www.bbc.com

Ireland Israel stance 'more extreme than any other country'

The Israeli ambassador to Ireland says the decision to close its embassy was tough but not taken lightly.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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www.foxnews.com

Israel to close embassy in Ireland over 'anti-Israel policies'

Israel is closing its embassy in Dublin, Ireland over the country's alleged "anti-Israel policies."
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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www.nytimes.com

Israel Shutters Its Embassy in Ireland, Citing ‘Anti-Israel Policies’

Amid mounting international criticism of its military conduct in Gaza, Israel says it will deepen ties with countries it considers friendly toward it.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com
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