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Guess there is only one way to test this theory.
How long did the US fight in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. 
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Taiwan Tensions | US - Japan - China - Australia
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How long did the US fight in Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan. 
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Not really a great choice of comparisons.Guess there is only one way to test this theory.
The theatre in topic is a completely different scenario all together. How you came up with this is beyond me. Completely different scenario.1. Terrain
2. Weapons
3. Logistics
Just a few considerations.
Hint think Japan times 10,000 or more.
Landmass, weapons,boots,equipement,location, etc etc. US Bombed 40-50 cities killing approx 700,000 civilians before atomics were used. None of that made them think twice. Islands not landmass. Shit iran is no comparison and still holding their own. Stop living in the past man. Those conflicts you chose acheived fa to bother mentioning. No real success in any. Definitely no solid victory to bother trying to claim with either. War fighting style for said topic no comparison.
Naval , air, missile , drones, cyber , all new and very different to those theatres you chose. Big shock, huge shock coming should that theatre kick off. Iran seems to much currently . The strait seems to much currently. Neither are anywhere near the size to china or the sea trade route there to deal with. Both land and sea are much much bigger areas than iran and sea trade route.
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I didn't come up with it. It's history.Not really a great choice of comparisons.
How long after Nagasaki was it Japan surrendered. I know the Russians joining had allot to do with it also. It it does pop off over there Japan will fight with us, not against us this time. Not so sure about Australia anymore.
Learn from the past least you repeat it. Something Americas adversaries should take note of. The US is certainly capable of fighting a multiple year conflict and we have. I am a US Marine man. We are trained to take the fight to the enemy up close and personal with whatever we have at the time. Sure, the high-tech stuff will be depleted in a sustained conflict. So will theirs. Then it comes down to the induvial warriors, and their fighting spirt and believe me US Marines have THAT in spades.
EVERY time the NVA, Afghanistan's or Iraqis engaged the US military in open combat they got their butts kicked. They all had to resort to guerrilla tactics. The US would do that also in a war with China and we would do it better than anyone. Lessons learned from past conflicts.
Yup, Iran is sinking US ships left and right! We're losing!
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Nothing equals winning or won.I didn't come up with it. It's history.
How long after Nagasaki was it Japan surrendered. I know the Russians joining had allot to do with it also. It it does pop off over there Japan will fight with us, not against us this time. Not so sure about Australia anymore.
Learn from the past least you repeat it. Something Americas adversaries should take note of. The US is certainly capable of fighting a multiple year conflict and we have. I am a US Marine man. We are trained to take the fight to the enemy up close and personal with whatever we have at the time. Sure, the high-tech stuff will be depleted in a sustained conflict. So will theirs. Then it comes down to the induvial warriors, and their fighting spirt and believe me US Marines have THAT in spades.
EVERY time the NVA, Afghanistan's or Iraqis engaged the US military in open combat they got their butts kicked. They all had to resort to guerrilla tactics. The US would do that also in a war with China and we would do it better than anyone. Lessons learned from past conflicts.
Yup, Iran is sinking US ships left and right! We're losing!
Once again ships at distance, those close enough have fast u turned and left the zone. In Australia we have a name for blind strikes and hit n run, its called a cowards punch. Kicking ass and leaving before end of conflict ,acheiving no real permanent outcome for initual reason , yep resistance is futile.
As in the aggressor wastes their time. Unless fireworks , death and destruction is enough , then war with no other results is not a concept understood by the masses. Me included. Atleast a minority can see the value of such actions and be extremely satisfied or atleast believe it was worth it.
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No offense intended by this comment, but the US did not "win" any of those conflicts. The last major conflict in which the US won a decisive victory was World War II. It's not necessarily about how long you fight; it's about clearly defeating the enemy.Guess there is only one way to test this theory.
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I say this with all due respect and gratitude for your service: I do not doubt the spirit and combat capabilities of the men and women in our armed forces. They are not the problem when it comes to prosecuting conflicts. The problem is that starting with Korea, every war the US has been with has been run by civilian politicians. Desert Shield was the only one where the military goal was accomplished in short order. If the US wants to win a war, the politicians have to take the leash off the military and let them do what they're trained to do.
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Difficult to do when one political side will do anything to make the other political side lose, no matter the collateral damage.
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That kind of applies to everything, including passing legislation, which is Congress's one and only job. Now it's become a dysfunctional institution where the default behavior is to vote "no" on anything originating from the opposition, regardless of its validity and benefit to the people.
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Agreed. This is something we have to include in our analysis.
And in case someone is trying to "read between the lines", I apply this to both political parties in the US.
Sadly, so true... as it doesn't matter what party is in control whenever one party's in control the other party roots for their failure which subsequently means rooting for America to fail. Which is why I feel we are in such a mess. When both parties root for the opposing parties failure the subsequent result means America fails.
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No offense taken. You're right. I was talking about battles. Battles won, wars pulled out off and defunded. I wouldn't say lost. IMO
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President Xi stressed to President Trump that the Taiwan question is the most important issue in China-U.S. relations. If it is handled properly, the bilateral relationship will enjoy overall stability. Otherwise, the two countries will have clashes and even conflicts, putting the entire relationship in great jeopardy. “Taiwan independence” and cross-Strait peace are as irreconcilable as fire and water. Safeguarding peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait is the biggest common denominator between China and the U.S.
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It's all a quest for power. I hear allot of talk about the US being in retrograde and I believe it is just the opposite. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely" and there is ALLOT of corruption in the US.