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| UA-RU WAR | NATO Crisis | ANALYSIS & DISCUSSION

DarkNoon said:
Zelenskyy "When our strikes reached Yandex’s data centers, it suddenly became a little easier to breathe on many social media platforms. A lot of people noticed it. There was less hate, less division, and fewer provocations. Because there were fewer bots. It’s pretty clear where those bots were"

https://twitter.com/x/status/2109602415397749044
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Probably the best thing to come out of this war
 
alphaecho said:
Trump on Ukraine War:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2110891939314688415
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Are we left to infer that Trump thinks Russia should be appeased simply because it is larger? Bullying and aggression is to be rewarded or if ignored simply because the aggressor is larger? Imagine if David was of the same opinion when it came to fighting Goliath....

I made a sight modification to this quote below, using a historical reference, which sheds a different light on the inference of Trump's quote...

Germany is a massive country. Germany can lose a million men, and they have lots of other millions of men. Poland (or heck, Czechoslovakia) doesn't have that kind of manpower.
 
teekay99 said:
Are we left to infer that Trump thinks Russia should be appeased simply because it is larger? Bullying and aggression is to be rewarded or if ignored simply because the aggressor is larger? Imagine if David was of the same opinion when it came to fighting Goliath....

I made a sight modification to this quote below, using a historical reference, which sheds a different light on the inference of Trump's quote...

Germany is a massive country. Germany can lose a million men, and they have lots of other millions of men. Poland (or heck, Czechoslovakia) doesn't have that kind of manpower.
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It’s true and this is not a reason to make final foreign policy decisions. However purely as a brass tacks tactical advantage of manpower it is a real advantage.

As far as Germany being able to lose. Million men. Technically that might be true. Now factor in the reality of would the German population tolerate losing a million men in a war with Russia under the current international relations realities.
Of course if Germany was viciously and repeatedly attacked they very well might be willing to suffer those looses. But today as the status of the war is?

After all the current realities, battle lines, financial impacts, and lastly military readiness. Not hypothetical ones are what nations make policy decisions on and commitments of troops to war.

Stating that Russia is able and willing to withstand losses of a million men. Is less of a statement of support than it is a statement of fact.

Take it as plausible fact. If Russia is willing to suffer immense losses regarding the conflict in Ukraine and NATO is not. All While Ukraine does have a population constraint and lower limit of losses they can tolerate.

That’s just a statement of fact, just because some don’t like hearing it does not make it a statement of support for Russia.
Unless someone knows something I don’t and European NATO’s is spooling up to engage Russia in the military defense of Ukraine.

Are we going to go to war with Russia over Ukraine and F___ S___ up? Or are we still holding on to the vanishing thin hope that a continued war of attrition with Russia will eventually prompt them to withdraw and surrender.
 
Publius said:
It’s true and this is not a reason to make final foreign policy decisions. However purely as a brass tacks tactical advantage of manpower it is a real advantage.

As far as Germany being able to lose. Million men. Technically that might be true. Now factor in the reality of would the German population tolerate losing a million men in a war with Russia under the current international relations realities.
Of course if Germany was viciously and repeatedly attacked they very well might be willing to suffer those looses. But today as the status of the war is?

After all the current realities, battle lines, financial impacts, and lastly military readiness. Not hypothetical ones are what nations make policy decisions on and commitments of troops to war.

Stating that Russia is able and willing to withstand losses of a million men. Is less of a statement of support than it is a statement of fact.

Take it as plausible fact. If Russia is willing to suffer immense losses regarding the conflict in Ukraine and NATO is not. All While Ukraine does have a population constraint and lower limit of losses they can tolerate.

That’s just a statement of fact, just because some don’t like hearing it does not make it a statement of support for Russia.
Unless someone knows something I don’t and European NATO’s is spooling up to engage Russia in the military defense of Ukraine.

Are we going to go to war with Russia over Ukraine and F___ S___ up? Or are we still holding on to the vanishing thin hope that a continued war of attrition with Russia will eventually prompt them to withdraw and surrender.
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I agree. It is a fact that Russia is larger in size and population. It has definitely been shown Russia is willing to absorb substantial manpower losses in Ukraine.

President Trump's manner of speaking generally relies on implication or listener/reader inferences to fill in gaps or arrive at full meaning/context. To me, based on his general manner of speaking, I feel that there is more to this statement than an utterance of mere fact most of the media and public already understand....
 
teekay99 said:
I agree. It is a fact that Russia is larger in size and population. It has definitely been shown Russia is willing to absorb substantial manpower losses in Ukraine.

President Trump's manner of speaking generally relies on implication or listener/reader inferences to fill in gaps or arrive at full meaning/context. To me, based on his general manner of speaking, I feel that there is more to this statement than an utterance of mere fact most of the media and public already understand....
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You very well could be correct about that.

And “to me” this constant harping about Trump this or that, while few will admit that in order for Russia to be forced to withdraw it is going to take more than just sanctions and another four years of weapons sent to Ukraine.
If a person believes it is still the moral thing to help Ukraine win. Then we first at least have to be honest about what it might take to see that happen.
Then we should be shocked and appalled about Trump statements. Does his statements help to force a win, no absolutely not. They’re designed to force negotiations. We can keep doing the same old failed policies in Ukraine, we could escalate in a number of ways, or we can press for a settlement.
 
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