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william said:
This guy sounds pretty credible to me. :cool:
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According to your president, it's China!

Furthermore, during his address to the nation, which several networks refused to broadcast live, he claimed that the 2020 elections were a massive conspiracy (by China, the Democrats, and other countries) against him.

In my opinion, these are very serious accusations.
 
william said:
This guy sounds pretty credible to me. :cool:
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Depends on if you view non-partisanship as a condition for credibility. His credentials are certainly giving him it, but his party affiliation makes it easier to see why he could be making the case.
 

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The decision by ABC, CNN, and NBC not to carry President Trump’s primetime address on election security raises a fundamental question about the role of major broadcast networks in a democracy.
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This was a nationally announced speech by a sitting, duly elected president on the integrity of U.S. elections. An issue that affects every voter, regardless of party.
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This is not about liking or disliking Trump, or agreeing or disagreeing with his claims. The presidency is the highest elected office in the country. When a president addresses the nation in a formal, scheduled primetime speech, there is a strong public‑interest argument that news networks should air it live and in full.
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Citizens can’t evaluate their leaders, or their claims, if they aren’t allowed to hear those leaders directly. Editorial judgment and criticism remain essential. Networks are entirely within their rights to add clear disclaimers before and after the address, fact‑check in real time or immediately afterward, host panels that challenge, contextualize, or rebut the president’s statements. But substituting that for the speech itself, showing only handpicked clips, summaries, or commentary, shifts from informing the public to curating what the public is permitted to see. At that point, viewers are reacting to the networks’ framing, not to the president’s actual words.
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Sorry, but that wasn't an address to the nation; it was more like Trump-style political propaganda. Furthermore, there was no evidence to support his allegations, as always. According to Trump, the 2020 election was rigged, and all American elections are rigged, so the 2024 election will be too, hahaha.
 
Torch said:
While opinions vary, it was, in fact, an “Address to the Nation”.
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Excuse my French. But that means shit. The last few presidents made "presidential address" mean less than a weeks old diaper in the dumpster. Biden, Trump, Obama, even Bush. They ruined the podium IMO by using it for personal gain. Not one party guilty of this. BOTH ARE.

People need to get over themselves/party and realize both sides are the enemy and both sides have contributed equally to empire rout.

Its honestly why I gave a laugh emoji to first post in thread. Just. Distraction from both parties robbing this country blind like ignorant babies.

Y'all fighting over genuine semantics that don't matter while the real issue/s go unannounced or unnoticed so the corporate entities that fund and support both parties win while robbing America's future blind while we distracted over honestly retarded semantics.
 
DarkNoon said:
that fund and support both parties
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The same exact fuckers that funded NYC Mayor campaign/DNC in general is the exact mother fuckers who support/aid Trump's/GOP campaign.

Wake the fuck up America before it's to late if not already.... Doesn't matter what side your on, our country is being stolen beneath our feet!!!!!!
 
DarkNoon said:
The same exact fuckers that funded NYC Mayor campaign/DNC in general is the exact mother fuckers who support/aid Trump's/GOP campaign.

Wake the fuck up America before it's to late if not already.... Doesn't matter what side your on, our country is being stolen beneath our feet!!!!!!
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Do you have a source for these funding claims? note while I agree with you on the uniparty I have questions
 
Publius said:
Do you have a source for these funding claims? note while I agree with you on the uniparty I have questions
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Yes!!!! Give me a minute been waiting for someone to call me on this so I can finally make my novel showing the proof!

SIMPLY PUT:
Many major corporate interests support candidates, committees, and outside groups associated with both parties, usually with a partisan lean, SO they retain access regardless of who controls government.

Anyways... Give me a minute. ;)
 
The broadcasters were absolutely free not to broadcast the address.
The truth is it says more about their own wanting influence and roll as members of the fourth estate.
They’re just catching up with reality that much of the nation has already stopped relying upon them as purveyors of news.
 
DarkNoon said:
Yes!!!! Give me a minute been waiting for someone to call me on this so I can finally make my novel showing the proof!

SIMPLY PUT:
Many major corporate interests support candidates, committees, and outside groups associated with both parties, usually with a partisan lean, SO they retain access regardless of who controls government.

Anyways... Give me a minute. ;)
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So no then? I mean we have all seen sources of corporations and PAC’s donating to both parties. That not in question. But I’ve seen nothing like major Trump backers also backing the NYC socialist.
 
Cilvilt_beredskap said:
Depends on if you view non-partisanship as a condition for credibility. His credentials are certainly giving him it, but his party affiliation makes it easier to see why he could be making the case.
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It’s true that partisanship can always influence.
Remember the partisan attacks by the IC
During the 2016 election and the Russiagate investigation.
How many IC officials signed Brennans letter. Or the ODNI’s report regarding actions taken by members of the Obama administration to generate fake reports from the IC community to undermine the campaign and more the first term is baseless investigations.
www.dni.gov

New Evidence Uncovers Obama-Directed Creation of False Intelligence Report Used to Launch Years-long Coup to Undermine President Trump and the American People | Office of the Director of National Intelligence

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Does this guy have a partisan leanings, probably. We’ve seen this partisanship can come from either side. Does that mean all whistleblowers claims are partisan and should just be ignored.
 
Publius said:
So no then? I mean we have all seen sources of corporations and PAC’s donating to both parties. That not in question. But I’ve seen nothing like major Trump backers also backing the NYC socialist.
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CORPORATE MONEY & BOTH PARTIES FUNDED BY SAME PEOPLE:

If we really want to get at what is REALLY happening you all must first understand how corporations generally cannot donate treasury money directly to federal candidates or national party committees.

However, corporate interests can legally establish a super PACs and make unlimited financial supporting which is BOTH parties.

Many major interests therefore support candidates and organizations connected to both parties, usually to preserve access and influence regardless of who controls government.

This is not one identical corporate check being handed to every politician. It is an entire legal network of PACs, outside spending, executives, trade associations, and political organizations operating around both parties.

The scale is enormous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! during the 2023 to 2024 federal election cycle, PACs reported raising approximately $15.7 billion, while reported independent expenditures reached approximately $4.4 billion. Almost funneled EQUALLY TO BOTH SIDES.

Buckley VS. Valeo:
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Summary of Buckley v. Valeo
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Citizens United VS. FEC:
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Summary of Citizens United v. FEC
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Corporate PACs & Separate Segregated Funds:
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Registering as an SSF - FEC.gov

Information for corporations, labor organizations and trade associations on how to create and register a federal political action committee (PAC), also known as a separate segregated fund or SSF.
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Unlimited corporate contributions to Super PACs and Hybrid PAC accounts:
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FEC information for nonconnected PACs about contributions to super PACs and hybrid PACs
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Unlimited independent expenditures:
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Making independent expenditures - FEC.gov

Federal Election Commission guidance on making independent expenditures, which are communications that expressly advocate the election or defeat of a clearly identified federal candidate and that are not made in consultation or cooperation with, or at the request or suggestion of a candidate...
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2023 to 2024 campaign finance totals:
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Find what you need to know about the federal campaign finance process. Explore legal resources, campaign finance data, help for candidates and committees, and more.
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Just one of many hundreds of examples 👉👉Lockheed Martin’s own 2024 political contribution disclosure, showing recipients from both parties:

Microsoft’s political engagement and PAC disclosures:
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Public policy engagement | Microsoft CSR

Microsoft is a leader in accountability and transparency in the public policy process.
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Comcast’s political contribution disclosures:

Here is a video explaining it all if you care not to read, but of course encourage you all to check my sources and claims, NO DIFFERENT than I'd expect you check FOX or CNN claims.

No one tired of hearing the same basic bitch propaganda from both sides then wondering why nothing is truly changing for the better?

HERE IS WHY :
 
Publius said:
So no then?
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Not sure how you have not gotten tired of defending corporations lies force fed/spoon fed to you like a baby. Instead of fact checking the information being spoon fed to you by your party. IDC if your right or left leaning. Both sides influence are manipulate by same entities. FULL STOP. I await your or anyone else ill based party partisan weak ass claims trying to disprove this.

One thing party politics hate is facts. ;)
 
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DarkNoon said:
Here is a video explaining it all if you care not to read, but of course encourage you all to check my sources and claims, NO DIFFERENT than I'd expect you check FOX or CNN claims.

No one tired of hearing the same basic bitch propaganda from both sides then wondering why nothing is truly changing for the better? Here why ;) :
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Just to let ALL FORUM MEMBERS KNOW: Both sides hard leftist and rightists DO NOT want you to see this video or the facts. Encourage everyone to watch this video or read my sources before making ANY conclusions. Remember both sides don't want to you know the truth.
 
I agree completely. Political theatre is nothing more than distraction from what's really happening, class warfare from the top down. The worst case scenario for the likes of musk, trump, bozos etc. is when the working and middle class are united against the so called "elite" class. Hence why I believe tranny "issues" etc are all a manufactured psyop to cause chaos and division while they further their control over the government and thus our lives.
 
JPod said:
I agree completely. Political theatre is nothing more than distraction from what's really happening, class warfare from the top down. The worst case scenario for the likes of musk, trump, bozos etc. is when the working and middle class are united against the so called "elite" class. Hence why I believe tranny "issues" etc are all a manufactured psyop to cause chaos and division while they further their control over the government and thus our lives.
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They are working tirelessly to bring a surveillance/compliance state into being through the likes of lobbying, ai and flock. Once it's completed they it will be much more difficult to resist what ever they have planned for us.
 
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