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Coup Plot In Germany Had Possible Russian Connections

DEFCON Warning System said:
I think the headlines are overblowing this. Yes, it is technically accurate, but how much of a chance did this group have of actually overthrowing the German government? Let's be real.
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Yea but if Russia is found to be aiding or embedding themselves in radical or terrorist groups to harm the West even if it didn't have chance of success only goals would be disruption or harm.... let's just say I hope that's not the case.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
I think the headlines are overblowing this. Yes, it is technically accurate, but how much of a chance did this group have of actually overthrowing the German government? Let's be real.
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If you read between the lines in Germany you get the following Informations:
- No weapons found
- the Authorities did not even know, how to name this Group exactly
- 25 Persons detained, 3000 Officers needed? Please!
- until now not even one has been under Charge (for what? Questioning the System is not a Crime)

Shure, they are a few Clowns. They believe the Empire is actually undefeated and works forth (bit difficult to explain that on English). Most of those Reichsbürger are penetrant, but harmless. Maybe the Russians did influence this Guys, maybe not. This has to be investigated.

If you are in Germany and you know the Society here: The most People are laughing at the Government and Reichsbürger at the same time. This action shows the complete incompetence of the German Government and the Police Force. We have far more Problems than this bunch of Reichsidiots.

If you ask me: its just show of force. "Look People, we have done something".
Meanwhile the migrant Clans in Berlin are Celebrating
 
Bravo said:
If you read between the lines in Germany you get the following Informations:
- No weapons found
- the Authorities did not even know, how to name this Group exactly
- 25 Persons detained, 3000 Officers needed? Please!
- until now not even one has been under Charge (for what? Questioning the System is not a Crime)

Shure, they are a few Clowns. They believe the Empire is actually undefeated and works forth (bit difficult to explain that on English). Most of those Reichsbürger are penetrant, but harmless. Maybe the Russians did influence this Guys, maybe not. This has to be investigated.

If you are in Germany and you know the Society here: The most People are laughing at the Government and Reichsbürger at the same time. This action shows the complete incompetence of the German Government and the Police Force. We have far more Problems than this bunch of Reichsidiots.

If you ask me: its just show of force. "Look People, we have done something".
Meanwhile the migrant Clans in Berlin are Celebrating
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I think I'll give great weight to your assessment here. Even before I read it, it certainly seems like it was blown out of proportion.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
I think I'll give great weight to your assessment here. Even before I read it, it certainly seems like it was blown out of proportion.
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To be honest, I have my suspicions that some of those poor fellas are impregnated by FSB Officers. And really few of them could be dangerous. Years ago a Reichsbürger killed an Officer in Duty, that tried to arrest him and another Guy shot an SWAT Officer with a Pistol. Both of them are not direct "Reichsbürger", the last one (Achim Ursache) tried to establish his own Country. But this are rare exceptions.
Seems to me, that they had picked the harmless ones with unnecessary pressure.
 
DarkNoon said:
I'll have to disagree with you until more information is released. Also not taking medias "analysis" of ongoing events until we have a clearer picture IF & WHEN German or NATO officials wish to tell us what they know on the record to journalists/media in coming hours or days.

Though frankly the only thing I give a danm about right now out of everything is if Germany confirms OR deny Russian involvement with every 25 individuals arrested today in coup plot. All other info is superficial to me.
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It was Qanon dweebes, At it’s worst it was just Russian muck raking of fringe left and right groups.
This is a small story being lathered up like a metro Goldwyn Meyer spectacle
 
DarkNoon said:
Yea but if Russia is found to be aiding or embedding themselves in radical or terrorist groups to harm the West even if it didn't have chance of success only goals would be disruption or harm.... let's just say I hope that's not the case.
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What is aiding and embedding? Spreading disinformation or smuggling weapons and explosives into the country.
Russian disinformation while real is not really on par with true classical subversive activities worthy of war and diplomatic hysteria. It’s not even illegal in most countries unless it leads to violence.

This is not the resurrection of the baader-Mienhof gang
 
Seriously said:
It was Qanon dweebes, At it’s worst it was just Russian muck raking of fringe left and right groups.
This is a small story being lathered up like a metro Goldwyn Meyer spectacle
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Seriously said:
What is aiding and embedding? Spreading disinformation or smuggling weapons and explosives into the country.
Russian disinformation while real is not really on par with true classical subversive activities worthy of war and diplomatic hysteria. It’s not even illegal in most countries unless it leads to violence.

This is not the resurrection of the baader-Mienhof gang
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Seems to be that way. But until we see how the Germans react or say weather it's true or not about Russian involvement not ready to blow it off yet...
 
Rumors say that parts of the German Media knew a few days (up to two weeks) before the raids about the actions of the authorities. If true, than it's just a PR Campaign.

Atm unconfirmed, my Internet is very slow so I can't do some research :(
I try my best
 
The Deutschland Funk reports that the Actions were known to German Media before they took place. Names, Adresses,... all was planned and reported to Mediageoups before delivery. ARD, WDR, SZ were already informed and took part in this "Show".

www.deutschlandfunk.de

Razzia gegen "Reichsbürger"-Szene - Medien wussten vorab Bescheid

Die bundesweite Razzia in der Szene selbsternannter „Reichsbürger“ begleitet eine Mediendebatte: Gefährdet es Ermittlungen, wenn vorab zu viele Redaktionen informiert sind? Über das Zusammenspiel von Medien und Behörden - und mögliche Risiken.
www.deutschlandfunk.de www.deutschlandfunk.de
 
Bravo said:
The Deutschland Funk reports that the Actions were known to German Media before they took place. Names, Adresses,... all was planned and reported to Mediageoups before delivery. ARD, WDR, SZ were already informed and took part in this "Show".

www.deutschlandfunk.de

Razzia gegen "Reichsbürger"-Szene - Medien wussten vorab Bescheid

Die bundesweite Razzia in der Szene selbsternannter „Reichsbürger“ begleitet eine Mediendebatte: Gefährdet es Ermittlungen, wenn vorab zu viele Redaktionen informiert sind? Über das Zusammenspiel von Medien und Behörden - und mögliche Risiken.
www.deutschlandfunk.de www.deutschlandfunk.de
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Jus like Roger Stones arrest 😂😂😂
 
DarkNoon said:
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The DWS is paying close attention to the ongoing developments in Germany. We will release any public statements if the need occurs.

For the mean time this is BREAKING news and everyone should remain calm until we have a better understanding of the situation in Germany.
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Time will provide clarity and intelligence. Let’s all just stay frosty.
 
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