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DEFCON 3 | Europe Crisis | Feburary 2022

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I just don’t see the West tolerating the Russians to level Kiev to the ground killing 100000s. Ukraine borders NATO territory and the ripple it would have is not imaginable. It would be no different than using a nuke on the city. If I were President, once the Russian objectives become clear, I would publish the intel all over the place as before so it can’t be disputed. I would then give them 48 hours to begin turning around and go back to Belarus or Russia before carpet bombing the shit out of the heavy artillery. Yes we would likely go to Defcon 2 in this scenario but we can’t keep letting Putin destroy city after city. They will back off if we force Ukraine to give them concessions behind the scenes such as getting Ukraine to withdraw out of Mariupol. I wouldn’t let Ukraine become another Syria. Putin is going to get Ukraine, it is just a matter of how many bodies on both sides it will take. Putin still loses as Russia is now isolated from the world and embarrassed.
 
TruthandJustice said:
I just don’t see the West tolerating the Russians to level Kiev to the ground killing 100000s. Ukraine borders NATO territory and the ripple it would have is not imaginable. It would be no different than using a nuke on the city. If I were President, once the Russian objectives become clear, I would publish the intel all over the place as before so it can’t be disputed. I would then give them 48 hours to begin turning around and go back to Belarus or Russia before carpet bombing the shit out of the heavy artillery. Yes we would likely go to Defcon 2 in this scenario but we can’t keep letting Putin destroy city after city. They will back off if we force Ukraine to give them concessions behind the scenes such as getting Ukraine to withdraw out of Mariupol. I wouldn’t let Ukraine become another Syria. Putin is going to get Ukraine, it is just a matter of how many bodies on both sides it will take. Putin still loses as Russia is now isolated from the world and embarrassed.
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Well you go do that meanwhile imma hope not to become glowing ash
 
Train said:
Still wouldn't mind seeing official confirmation that Poland is allowing Ukraine to use their airfields. I've seen nothing, so far, other than that telegram screenshot.
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The source of that telegram post is the official (bluechecked) facebook of Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:
https://www.facebook.com/navy.mil.gov.ua/posts/324814373019485

Screenshot of account (don't know how to embed thumbnail): https://postimg.cc/kBJ0Rr5P
Screenshot of translated post: https://postimg.cc/fkv9fPxv

Does "If necessary, they will be able to" really imply permission given?
 
Kharkiv is surrounded and fighting in the city is taking place. They had no proof but someone who lives there.

The Iskander missiles accuracy is horrible and that’s all I can say about that 😂. I think the Belarusian troops coming into north Kiev are shitting themselves at the moment getting their first taste of real combat and a lot of tanks and troop carriers being tore up by NATO anti-tank missiles.

They will likely bail and run as so many Russians have leaving perfectly fine tanks behind. That or they malfunctioned as well.
 
TruthandJustice said:
I just don’t see the West tolerating the Russians to level Kiev to the ground killing 100000s. Ukraine borders NATO territory and the ripple it would have is not imaginable. It would be no different than using a nuke on the city. If I were President, once the Russian objectives become clear, I would publish the intel all over the place as before so it can’t be disputed. I would then give them 48 hours to begin turning around and go back to Belarus or Russia before carpet bombing the shit out of the heavy artillery. Yes we would likely go to Defcon 2 in this scenario but we can’t keep letting Putin destroy city after city. They will back off if we force Ukraine to give them concessions behind the scenes such as getting Ukraine to withdraw out of Mariupol. I wouldn’t let Ukraine become another Syria. Putin is going to get Ukraine, it is just a matter of how many bodies on both sides it will take. Putin still loses as Russia is now isolated from the world and embarrassed.
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I think you will see a worldwide coalition of troops form to enter Ukraine if that happens and Russia doesn’t pull back and stop the madness if that happens!
 
rudemarine said:
I think you will see a worldwide coalition of troops form to enter Ukraine if that happens and Russia doesn’t pull back and stop the madness if that happens!
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By the time a worldwide coalition of forces could mobilize, it will be all over.
 
gehn said:
The source of that telegram post is the official (bluechecked) facebook of Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine:
https://www.facebook.com/navy.mil.gov.ua/posts/324814373019485

Screenshot of account (don't know how to embed thumbnail): https://postimg.cc/kBJ0Rr5P
Screenshot of translated post: https://postimg.cc/fkv9fPxv
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Strangely, they've since deleted the post.

FWIW, here's a 3rd-party screenshot and some qualification:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1498481048791003136
https://twitter.com/x/status/1498493602217005060
 
Obreid said:
Level 2 lab was highest level.
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I work in a BSL2+ lab here in the States. Depending on the organism, most facilities are rated to flex to BSL3. That said... we are a little more strict than a lot of places. It would not surprise me at all to see BSL3 and 4 organisms in a lab that they are not rated for, outside of the US. Rules of containment, and thing like gain of function are quickly ignored a few minutes outside of our borders. There are multiple 4's in Russia, so its not like are unfamiliar with the containment protocols. I just hope that they blow it up as opposed to entering unprepared. God knows what they may find lurking in those hoods.

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