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The US would, probably, but maybe not, attempt to relieve parts of Australia, eventually, so long as it didn’t inconvenience us whatsoever.

The USA don’t need ALL of Australia to fight China. We would probably just interdict them in the areas of Australia they hold. That means we bomb the crap out of you, making your hometown look like Gaza or Berlin circa 1944.

Oh yeah, we would free the ship out of y’all.

My advice is: God helps those that help themselves. For everything else there are BLU-82’s
The interesting thing to see is if there is a trend away from the USA in younger Australians of today who seem to be more willing of nations like China. They are making assessments of the USA and not liking what they are seeing while at the same time faith and trust in the Australian Government is also falling.
 
To be honest missile defense systems are actually useless nowadays against hyposonics .
Also it wouldn't make bugger all difference for Australia even if we had triple the defense capabilities. Currently our military capacity would need 20 times what we have to last months in a direct conflict. Nuclear umbrella and host only makes us a target. No country globally could stop China taking Australia. The only way that could be stopped only results in nuclear war anyway. Majority of Australians are foolish to believe the US would save us. Most of the US naval forces would be destroyed by China on their way through to Australia . Reinforcements arrival would be to late due to travel time. So thanks anyway I know the thought is there.😉🤷‍♂️
On what planet and in which alternative timeline do you think that China is going to invade Australia. The idea is nonsense for a whole host of reasons, not least the logistics.
 
On what planet and in which alternative timeline do you think that China is going to invade Australia. The idea is nonsense for a whole host of reasons, not least the logistics.
Yeah I wouldn't expect you to have knowledge of China or Australia or what China already has access to in Australia and the island chain between. Let alone their capacity, capabilities etcetc. Back ww2 it only took Japan 4 weeks to get here. Even the Germans paid a visit. Remember Hawaii? SURPRISE. 🙄
 
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On what planet and in which alternative timeline do you think that China is going to invade Australia. The idea is nonsense for a whole host of reasons, not least the logistics.
If China wants to expand, she(?) will have to fight. If China wants to fight, it will have to take or destroy numerous lands, Islands and Island chains.

The Philippines, the US, Australia and Vietnam have pretty much got to be on the top of the list. Japan, the Marianas and New Zealand are probably going to receive a bit hate mail as well. Possibly visitors. The rude, angry, ugly, line you up against a wall and shoot you kind. Wait! That’s not true. They won’t bother lining you up

IMO, anyone who doesn’t believe this to be so is not minimally aware of Geography, History and the Military Arts. Either China attack Russia to size land or she attacks her neighbors for land and resources. Basically armed robbery, but on a national scale.
 
If China wants to expand, she(?) will have to fight. If China wants to fight, it will have to take or destroy numerous lands, Islands and Island chains.

The Philippines, the US, Australia and Vietnam have pretty much got to be on the top of the list. Japan, the Marianas and New Zealand are probably going to receive a bit hate mail as well. Possibly visitors. The rude, angry, ugly, line you up against a wall and shoot you kind. Wait! That’s not true. They won’t bother lining you up

IMO, anyone who doesn’t believe this to be so is not minimally aware of Geography, History and the Military Arts. Either China attack Russia to size land or she attacks her neighbors for land and resources. Basically armed robbery, but on a national scale.
And an invasion, with ground troops, of Australia is so very far down that list that the concept is laughable.
 
And an invasion, with ground troops, of Australia is so very far down that list that the concept is laughable.
Opinions vary, as do the goalposts for this debate. Very few here or elsewhere believe a full occupation of Australia (or the attempt) is in the cards. Seizure of important and strategic areas are almost a certainty if war breaks out. Would China Invading and holding (or attempting) several of Australias islands check your box? Or do you need to see a Russian level invasion attempt (failed) of the Ukraine?

It would be helpful if you stated your position clearly to begin the discussion anew. If someone seized our (US) islands in Alaska, I would say we were invaded. (We were, Japan WW2.)

It’s sounds like you would say no unless It was like Germany parading in Paris. Does the Japanese war with China qualify as an invasion? Japan actually held little total real estate of China in WWnon (Japan went to war with China in 1937 and the only people who gave a ship were the Americans. The west, US included, pretends WW2 started with the Invasion of Poland in 1939. It a very short sighted and “Eurocentric” view).
The still didn’t stop them from raping and pillaging in the fullest sense of the word.

Awaiting your comnents.

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No doubt we are a target. That wasn't my point unless the game allows an aussie to fire US nuclear weapons that are just visiting 😉🤣😂🤣
By the way, I did finally figure out how to run this scenario and did. I gave Australia no land-based nuclear weapons, no airbases for bombers, only a single nuclear submarine sitting off the coast. Sydney took a single hit and that was all. NOT what I expected. If I do it again, I will probably switch it from a submarine to a carrier and see if that makes any difference.
 
By the way, I did finally figure out how to run this scenario and did. I gave Australia no land-based nuclear weapons, no airbases for bombers, only a single nuclear submarine sitting off the coast. Sydney took a single hit and that was all. NOT what I expected. If I do it again, I will probably switch it from a submarine to a carrier and see if that makes any difference.
Shows the fault in game then. Currently we have nuclear weapons or nuclear powered subs , yet in truth we have 1-2 dozen nuclear targets today. Then again I don’t expect a game designer to know .🤷‍♂️😉
 
Shows the fault in game then. Currently we have nuclear weapons or nuclear powered subs , yet in truth we have 1-2 dozen nuclear targets today. Then again I don’t expect a game designer to know .🤷‍♂️😉
Well, no, it's not the game's fault. It played out as if Australia had no nukes at all except for the American sub. In order for me to make it a more realistic scenario, I would need to know what you have and where so I can place them there in game.
 
Well, no, it's not the game's fault. It played out as if Australia had no nukes at all except for the American sub. In order for me to make it a more realistic scenario, I would need to know what you have and where so I can place them there in game.
Yeah sorry my reply was suppose to state we currently have nothing nuclear militarily. We only have military bases, international airports, industrial areas and a couple of American bases. Oh and cities. My point stands that we have no nuclear capacity-capability militarily yet we have nuclear targets anyway.
 
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Yeah sorry my reply was suppose to state we currently have nothing nuclear militarily. We only have military bases, international airports, industrial areas and a couple of American bases. Oh and cities. My point stands that we have no nuclear capacity-capability militarily yet we have nuclear targets anyway.
Gotchya. I didn't think Oz had any nukes on their soil.

Out of curiosity, do you live near any possible target?
 
Gotchya. I didn't think Oz had any nukes on their soil.

Out of curiosity, do you live near any possible target?
18km from naval base
13km from major industrial areas
And about 30km from major deep water port , and from another direction an international airport.
Naval base and industrial area are my biggest threats as to immediate blasts.Due to ground level and jet stream, Direction and wind patterns saved from fallout. But planned not to be near any as my bol is far from any targets with no possibility of fallout reaching within 200-300 km radius of my bol. Bol approx drive time 3hrs - 3.5hrs. Bol = bug out location. Bol population approx 25 people in a 25km radius 😉. Nearest towns approx 45km away with small populations. Bol thick bush plenty of natural aquifers plus ocean and river access all close by.
 
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Hey everyone! There is a mod of DEFCON out I downloaded and tested on my system. It allows you to set up to 16 different countries. This is a screenshot from my computer:
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If you Google for "DEFCON mods sixteen players" you should be able to find it.

Hey everyone! There is a mod of DEFCON out I downloaded and tested on my system. It allows you to set up to 16 different countries. This is a screenshot from my computer:
View attachment 7631

If you Google for "DEFCON mods sixteen players" you should be able to find it.
Search defconexpanded.com, I prefer the 8 player.
 
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