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Pakistan writes again, offers to renew talks on Indus Waters Treaty; India not ready to engage yet​

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Pakistan writes again, offers to renew talks on Indus Waters Treaty; India not ready to engage yet

Pakistan’s recent multiple offers to discuss India’s objections are significant because—despite two prior notices from India, in January 2023 and again in September 2024, seeking a “review and modification” of the IWT—Islamabad had not explicitly indicated any willingness to engage.
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Pakistan writes again, offers to renew talks on Indus Waters Treaty; India not ready to engage yet​

indianexpress.com

Pakistan writes again, offers to renew talks on Indus Waters Treaty; India not ready to engage yet

Pakistan’s recent multiple offers to discuss India’s objections are significant because—despite two prior notices from India, in January 2023 and again in September 2024, seeking a “review and modification” of the IWT—Islamabad had not explicitly indicated any willingness to engage.
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How long do you see them holding out? What will Pakistan have to do to satisfy India.
 

India launches pre-feasibility study to divert Chenab water​

The project proposes to channel 15-20 million acre-feet (MAF) of water from the Chenab to Indian states of Punjab, Haryana, and Rajasthan, as part of a broader effort to strengthen domestic water infrastructure and assert greater control over Indus basin resources. The move follows the effective suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty under which India was permitted to use 20% of the basin’s water.
The total annual flow of this river is 25 million acre-feet, meaning India is currently looking at taking at least 60-75% of the total flow of water in this river. ​

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India launches pre-feasibility study to divert Chenab water

NEW DELHI: India has launched a pre-feasibility study for the construction of the Chenab-Ravi-Beas-Sutlej link canal project aimed at diverting water from the C
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OReid said:
How long do you see them holding out? What will Pakistan have to do to satisfy India.
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India has a stated position that they will not engage until Pakistan credibly deals with the terrorism issue. They will force Pakistan into a position where they either choose between war or cracking down on terrorism.
 
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India is conducting a pre feasibility study, there’s going to be at least a year of studies after this and around 2 years before construction starts, and then it’ll take 3-5 years to build the dam, until then we’ll see what becomes, if we get to the construction stage we are going to see war.

In terms of negotiations, I don't see it working out. India has asked Pakistan to credibly work on terrorism before negotiating on the treaty. I don’t think they’d be willing to believe each other at all; we’d need a third party to come in and mediate, perhaps the UNMOGIP, but it will be very hard. The truth is that Modi and the Indian government want the water. It's quite likely this was just the perfect opportunity to put the treaty in abeyance (India has been asking to renegotiate the treaty for years, but Pakistan has refused). Pakistan will never re-negotiate the treaty.

Taking Pakistan's water secures India's water future, but it also severely damages Pakistan's economy. Pakistan could do a 180 and get rid of all terrorism, and India still won’t give the IWT back. Any Indian politician giving the IWT back to Pakistan will be ruined politically, such is the hatred for Pakistan. Giving an inch to them is considered sacrilegious.

The condition put forth by India of "eradicating" terrorism might not be fully within Pakistani control either. They don't have total control of the rogue terrorist groups. Even then, neither side is going to believe the other. India-Pakistan relations make US-USSR & US-Russia relations appear warm. Tensions here remain cold-war like all the time, with the war actually turning hot four (five times if you count last month's conflict).
 
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Leader of Pakistani delegation to the United States and ex-Foreign Minister of Pakistan, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari says India is laying the grounds for a nuclear war over water. The delegation is comprised of three ex-Foreign Ministers of Pakistan.


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India laying ground of first nuclear war over water: Bilawal

Pakistan delegation stresses need for Pak-India dialogue in meetings with US Congress members, briefs 7 US representatives on India's aggression, hails Trump's role in ceasefire.
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Smart move. Contaminate the water supply for both countries with radioactive fallout.
 
7gtz said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1931281281632862367

MY PERSONAL VIEWS FOLLOW HERE:

India is conducting a pre feasibility study, there’s going to be at least a year of studies after this and around 2 years before construction starts, and then it’ll take 3-5 years to build the dam, until then we’ll see what becomes, if we get to the construction stage we are going to see war.
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We won't make it that far.
 
7gtz said:
I genuinely don't know if we will.
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There are too may world leaders on the planet who are too eager to use nuclear weapons, and there are fewer and fewer people every day who have actually witnessed one go off. Our collective fear of them is fading.
 
“No, it will never be restored. International treaties cannot be annulled unilaterally, but we have the right to put it in abeyance, which we have done,” Shah said.

Shah announced that India would now utilise waters flowing into Pakistan through new canal infrastructure directed towards Rajasthan.
“Pakistan will be deprived of water that it has been receiving unjustifiably,” he said.
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For context, Amit Shah is the second most, if not the most powerful politician in India. He is the de facto boss of the entire BJP, India's ruling party and his word is final on all matters, on par with Modi himself.
 
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