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Kremlin Drone Attack & Putin Assassination Attempt | 05-03-2023

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What Volodin says it's not a fact...is propaganda...Volodin every 2/3 months as soon as there's an occasion he comes out with random threats of, global catastrophe, nuclear war, blah blah.
There's only a person that really counts ATM in Russia...Putin.
So what matters is what Putin, Lavrov and Peskov say.

You keep saying that this was an attack...to be an attack, you need two things: an attacker and someone who takes the takes the merit of the attack.
Both are missing.
And anyway...why would Ukraine attack the Kremlin, knowing that Putin is not even there? What would they gain?

If you're so sure that something big will happen, why don't you make an example?
What could happen worse than what's currently already happening? A nuclear attack? A chemical attack? Bombing Zelensky's home?
Does any of these responses make any sense? And would have Russia something to gain from something like that?

Also...do you realize that Ukraine has performed several attacks on Belgorod's region during the past months?
The fact "that someone will continue to make other similar attacks without risk", mostly does not apply in wars....there's a reason if Ukraine is not attacking Moscow, and SP which are pretty close.
No reason to try to kill Putin, knowing that he wasn't even there.

If you wanna wear the thin helmet for this drone's story...go ahead...:D

I don't undestand how it is possible that the DEFCON statements are so rational, when the level of the debate, even from some analysts, is that.

"What Volodin says it's not a fact...is propaganda...Volodin every 2/3 months as soon as there's an occasion he comes out with random threats of, global catastrophe, nuclear war, blah blah"

You confuse Volodim for Medvedev. However, Volodim is not the first random dude passing through the street: it is the President of the State Duma. So, if he say something, we can infer that maybe Duma is called to make some decisions.

You keep saying that this was an attack...to be an attack, you need two things: an attacker and someone who takes the takes the merit of the attack.
Both are missing.
And anyway...why would Ukraine attack the Kremlin, knowing that Putin is not even there? What would they gain?

It seems that for some of you all is like a joke. This IS an attack. It could be a false flag to simulate an attack, or it is a real attack. In every any case, it is an attack to an istitutional facility. So, in any case you can read this, it is something serious and it is obvious.

Also...do you realize that Ukraine has performed several attacks on Belgorod's region during the past months?

I do. And so, what you do you mean? First: Begorod it is not an istitutional facility. Second: this have to be read as a futher excalation, not as "nothing".

If you're so sure that something big will happen, why don't you make an example?

we can make a lot of examples, ranging from "nothing", to a "declaration of war", passing by a "further mobilization".

The fact "that someone will continue to make other similar attacks without risk", mostly does not apply in wars....there's a reason if Ukraine is not attacking Moscow, and SP which are pretty close.
No reason to try to kill Putin, knowing that he wasn't even there.

If the drone was Ukranian, they have acatually attacked Moscow. And if it is true that we don't know if it was a false flag, it is also true that we don't know if it wasn't. And even in the case in which it is a false flag, why Russians have made a false flag? To do nothing? It is obvious that if it is a Russian false flag, it is because Russia is searching a pretext to do something! You are so overthinking about how much Russia is bad and how much is bad someone who don't suddenly reports slavishly the first thing that ridiculize more Russia, that you really don't undestand the general scenario, which it is serious in both cases. In a summary, you postion is the following: Russian have surely made a false flag, because they are stupid. And they have made a false flag in order to do nothing, because they have nothing to do, because they are stupid. Great! Ok.
The fact that Putin wasn't even here don't demostrate that they known that he wasn't there. And if it was a false flag, why don't make it with Putin present? However, it is an istitutional facility in the Cremlin, inside Moscow.
 
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That is a Shahed drone. Looking at the trajectory of the drone coming in and the speed it does not match up with the DJI drones Ukraine is using. The DJI drones are limited in their ability to descend and ascend while moving forward, the Shahed drones have great forward velocity and can descend like an aircraft. Looking at the approach vector the DJI drones do not fly that way. Russia attacked itself.
 
Something being overlooked unless some new unknown drones have been built or imported to Ukraine. They do not have satellite controlled drones. I don’t think starlink would count but I could be wrong .
A RF controlled drone could not reach Moscow from Ukraines without two or more ground controller hand off that are located inside Russia.
So either Ukraine has some new super secret satellite enabled drone. As well as access to some other foreign nations satellite coverage.

Ukraines denied it.
They don’t really have the technology to fly a kamikaze drone all the way to Moscow. Most drones of this type don’t have that kind of airtime let alone ground control capabilities.

So either it’s a false flag to drum up support or Russia has a significant dissent and or Ukrainian saboteurs inside Russia.
Which we’re being led to believe drones are able to enter one of the more secure airspace’s in that world. S-400’s ringing Moscow and supposedly the kremlin.

I’m not really buying it.
 
That is a Shahed drone. Looking at the trajectory of the drone coming in and the speed it does not match up with the DJI drones Ukraine is using. The DJI drones are limited in their ability to descend and ascend while moving forward, the Shahed drones have great forward velocity and can descend like an aircraft. Looking at the approach vector the DJI drones do not fly that way. Russia attacked itself.
Good ovservation
 
Personally, I don't think. If it was a false flag operation, it would mean that Russians want to have a pretext to do something. But if they want to do something, why their response is soft?

However, I have just read (but I don't find confirmations), that the President of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin has declared that an attack to the President is an attack to Russia and he will ask the use of any kind of weapon usefull to destroy Kiev gouvenement.
Medvedev also said that Russia should take out Zelensky and "his clique"; and said the West are active participants in a terrorist attack against the Russian state. Although he has made a lot of bold statements, I think we need to take note of this one.
 
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