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OReid said:
And if I may, that if funding is available or used properly is a foundational political point.
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True, but see below.

OReid said:
You can’t disqualify any governmental response or preperation as not being a political point.
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Yes, you can, if it's part of a news report or press release. If there is a false statement made by a government official in that report or conference, point it out using supporting evidence.

"Newsom's claim that {insert claim here} is incorrect, and here are three sources to back up that statement," is a valid discussion point.
"Demonrats like Newscum are cheats and liars and if Trump had been in office this disaster never would have happened," or "Welcome to Trump's America where Democrat states won't receive any funding for disasters from the Nazis," are hyperpartisan political comments that are not relevant to the topic, not conducive to the discussion, not productive, and not welcome in the thread.

OReid said:
Any critique, compliment or dismissals of any governmental response or lack of has automatically become political statement.
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This is because critiques, compliments, and dismissals derail the thread with all the "LEFT BAD RIGHT GOOD / RIGHT BAD LEFT GOOD" partisan crap that always seems to rear it's ugly head as of late. People seem incapable of being able to just talk about any given topic without the conversation devolving into "Fuck Democrats" and "Fuck Republicans." I'm sick and tired of it and I'm not going to tolerate it outside of the Politics forum.

OReid said:
So we can report in the non-politics forum only, period full stop. You also can’t use it as an excuse to hide from unwanted actions or lack of actions by any political clique you might or might not support.
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A thread dealing with a natural disaster should not be filled with an entire page of partisan sniping.

OReid said:
So the forum is back to either reporting facts or reports purely. Which is hard enough with the plethora of news sites and worldviews out there today.
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I would prefer not to interfere at all with intelligent discussions on any topic. The problem is and has been that some people in this forum use every report or analysis as an excuse to demean the political party they don't like instead of focusing on the actual topic of discussion. I am putting a stop to that unless it's a thread in the Politics forum. That's what it's there for.

OReid said:
Welcome to the local chatter and claptrap at any local bar or cafe of your choice.
Bear in mind always in your travels that what is considered a self evident statement of fact in one region or country. Can very well be considered a falsehood, conflation of facts or doctrinaire interpretation in a different region.
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Which is why this site has always pushed supporting statements with reliable sources. A statement made without a reliable source to back it up is just an opinion.

OReid said:
Welcome to the jungle. Sometimes it is just about pissing down another’s back.
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Not on this site; not on my watch.
 
RiffRaff said:
True, but see below.


Yes, you can, if it's part of a news report or press release. If there is a false statement made by a government official in that report or conference, point it out using supporting evidence.
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That is exactly what Mr. Griffin and myself were doing! Yet the whole discussion was deleted by you! :mad:
RiffRaff said:
"Newsom's claim that {insert claim here} is incorrect, and here are three sources to back up that statement," is a valid discussion point.
"Demonrats like Newscum are cheats and liars and if Trump had been in office this disaster never would have happened," or "Welcome to Trump's America where Democrat states won't receive any funding for disasters from the Nazis," are hyperpartisan political comments that are not relevant to the topic, not conducive to the discussion, not productive, and not welcome in the thread.
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So, when a politician says these things in a POLITICIAL POST on social media we can't refute it! Why, because YOU don't like it! :mad:


This is because critiques, compliments, and dismissals derail the thread with all the "LEFT BAD RIGHT GOOD / RIGHT BAD LEFT GOOD" partisan crap that always seems to rear it's ugly head as of late. People seem incapable of being able to just talk about any given topic without the conversation devolving into "Fuck Democrats" and "Fuck Republicans." I'm sick and tired of it and I'm not going to tolerate it outside of the Politics forum.

A thread dealing with a natural disaster should not be filled with an entire page of partisan sniping.


I would prefer not to interfere at all with intelligent discussions on any topic. The problem is and has been that some people in this forum use every report or analysis as an excuse to demean the political party they don't like instead of focusing on the actual topic of discussion. I am putting a stop to that unless it's a thread in the Politics forum. That's what it's there for.


Which is why this site has always pushed supporting statements with reliable sources. A statement made without a reliable source to back it up is just an opinion.

And I guess YOU determine what a RELIABLE SOURCE is a! If you don't deem it to be so, it is gone! :mad:

Not on this site; not on my watch.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely! :mad:
 
RiffRaff said:
Agreed. @william - Just because a post mentions the name of a politician does NOT make it a political post. Knock off the juvenile bullshit.
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When a politician posts or is interviewed on social media it is a POLITICAL POST and if you deem it to be incorrect it should be refuted!
Oh. and by the way! I am probably old enough to be your father! Son!
 

Threat remains critical with high winds and dry conditions​

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More powerful winds were expected to trigger new wildfires that could set back the recent progress made in containing blazes that have destroyed thousands of homes and killed at least 24 people.
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Here’s what to know:​

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apnews.com

Los Angeles wildfires live updates: Threat remains critical with high winds and dry conditions

After making some progress battling wildfires that destroyed thousands of homes and killed at least 24 people in the Los Angeles area, firefighters are preparing for a return of dangerous winds that could again stoke the flames on Monday.
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Santa Ana winds up to 70 mph are set to roar back today, putting the entire Los Angeles County population of 10 million on high alert for potential evacuation.
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Officials are bracing for what they’re calling a “particularly dangerous situation.”
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The fires have already claimed 24 lives, destroyed 12,300 structures, and forced 100,000 people to flee.
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The Palisades Fire has scorched 37 square miles (14% contained), while the Eaton Fire—almost the size of Manhattan—is 33% contained.
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Newsom says this could rank as one of the worst disasters in U.S. history, with damages estimated at up to $150 billion. With high winds ready to fan the flames, the battle is far from over.
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Sources: Reuters
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1878832862893629831
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william said:
When a politician posts or is interviewed on social media it is a POLITICAL POST and if you deem it to be incorrect it should be refuted!
Oh. and by the way! I am probably old enough to be your father! Son!
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That just earned you a 24-hour ban.

I suggest you use that time to calm yourself and rethink how you want to deal with disagreements on this site.
 
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