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NATO Gives Ukraine the Go-Ahead to Cross Putin's Red Line

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NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said that Ukraine has a right to use its Western-supplied weapons to defend itself against Russia, even if that includes striking targets within Russia's borders.

 
Vladimir Putin may give the green light to his nuclear weapons. Even if he never carries out his threats, that doesn't mean he won't.
Depends. It's all about proportionality and the fact that Russia is in a favourable position at the time of writing as well as the fact that Ukraine itself doesn't have any nukes. I think he'd rather wait with the "red line" trump card until the future conflict with a Nato country where he challenges article 5. He'd be able to use it to save the situation if he "fails" the challenge of article 5, that is, no split in Nato is caused over unwillingness to help. If the entire alliance is resolute in a military response he can just go "If you attack any of our targets in Kaliningrad or on our territory" (In this scenario I'd imagine Nato's response would be gradually intensifying as a response to a, let's say hybrid invasion of one of the Baltic countries that's not entirely an invasion like Ukraine. That'd still get the entire alliance to come help, and his idea is to be able to make the threat real and tangible but at the same time not bad enough that the US won't feel the need to intervene due to isolationist attitudes. If the Nato response is slow but resolute, Putin can easily back down by showing a clear red line that Nato trusts is real and will thus be able to save face while deescalation the situation if the challenge fails. The equation win = Diminished Nato influence and potential for us (Russia) to be more aggressive in Eastern Europe or lose = Nuclear War and the annihilation of Russia as an entity doesn't seem all that worth it. Plus, the vaguer he is with his threats the safer Nato feels to send weapons to Ukraine and allow this because they know it's not a risk. So in short, bringing the nuclear card up is only a viable option (for now) if an actual threat is posed to Russia, nuclear threats and posturing because of western weapons causing damage on Russian soil might not be optimal in the long run because that might just get Nato to view it less as an actual threat.
 
Russia has no reason to use nukes in the Ukraine war at this time.

What would be the advantage? The world is already getting bored with the war. So there's no reason to blackmail the world with a nuke to stay away.

Using a nuke would cause an avalanche of new sanctions that even the Europeans couldn't ignore. And it would certainly cause Africa and South America to think twice about continued support of Russia.

Russia has no reason to go nuclear right now. Something major would have to change in the war for that to even become a consideration.
 
Russia has no reason to use nukes in the Ukraine war at this time.

What would be the advantage? The world is already getting bored with the war. So there's no reason to blackmail the world with a nuke to stay away.

Using a nuke would cause an avalanche of new sanctions that even the Europeans couldn't ignore. And it would certainly cause Africa and South America to think twice about continued support of Russia.

Russia has no reason to go nuclear right now. Something major would have to change in the war for that to even become a consideration.
That and the fact that they also can't even use the nuclear threats themselves (at least from actual government officials) irresponsibly. Nuclear weapons obviously won't work as a deterrence if the prospect of a nation using them is brought up all the time for various transgressions against them, no one will take it seriously.
 
Depends. It's all about proportionality and the fact that Russia is in a favourable position at the time of writing as well as the fact that Ukraine itself doesn't have any nukes. I think he'd rather wait with the "red line" trump card until the future conflict with a Nato country where he challenges article 5. He'd be able to use it to save the situation if he "fails" the challenge of article 5, that is, no split in Nato is caused over unwillingness to help. If the entire alliance is resolute in a military response he can just go "If you attack any of our targets in Kaliningrad or on our territory" (In this scenario I'd imagine Nato's response would be gradually intensifying as a response to a, let's say hybrid invasion of one of the Baltic countries that's not entirely an invasion like Ukraine. That'd still get the entire alliance to come help, and his idea is to be able to make the threat real and tangible but at the same time not bad enough that the US won't feel the need to intervene due to isolationist attitudes. If the Nato response is slow but resolute, Putin can easily back down by showing a clear red line that Nato trusts is real and will thus be able to save face while deescalation the situation if the challenge fails. The equation win = Diminished Nato influence and potential for us (Russia) to be more aggressive in Eastern Europe or lose = Nuclear War and the annihilation of Russia as an entity doesn't seem all that worth it. Plus, the vaguer he is with his threats the safer Nato feels to send weapons to Ukraine and allow this because they know it's not a risk. So in short, bringing the nuclear card up is only a viable option (for now) if an actual threat is posed to Russia, nuclear threats and posturing because of western weapons causing damage on Russian soil might not be optimal in the long run because that might just get Nato to view it less as an actual threat.
You triggered a possible tactic that Russia could use If it looks like NATO is being strained and divisions begining to show.
They could utilize the same tactics they used in eastern Ukraine in 2014 to mobilize ethnic Russian populations in the Baltics or Transnistria. It would be an asymmetrical escalation of the war. Where Russia could deny involvement while claiming oppression of ethnic Russians is happening in other places as well.
Moving in Moldova a non-NATO country leaves nato with having to commit energies in another local. Romanian ties are to close to Moldova historical they would likely push hard for intervention. But there might be others who block it. Resulting in a further divided NATO and better bargaining position for Russia.
Ethnic Russian in Transnistria are already posturing in this direction.

Just a theory


 
Russia has no reason to use nukes in the Ukraine war at this time.

What would be the advantage? The world is already getting bored with the war. So there's no reason to blackmail the world with a nuke to stay away.

Using a nuke would cause an avalanche of new sanctions that even the Europeans couldn't ignore. And it would certainly cause Africa and South America to think twice about continued support of Russia.

Russia has no reason to go nuclear right now. Something major would have to change in the war for that to even become a consideration.
After listening to several speeches from Putin, he does not think like you and me, Putin is convinced that his weapons cannot
be stopped by the West, but I have no idea if he is right or not.

Suggestion: You need to find a way to include cyber attacks in Defcon level.
 
After listening to several speeches from Putin, he does not think like you and me, Putin is convinced that his weapons cannot
be stopped by the West, but I have no idea if he is right or not.

Suggestion: You need to find a way to include cyber attacks in Defcon level.
Defcon has always been for nuclear risk, but for the times when cyberattacks can influence that, I guess..?
 
Nope. We're nukes only, that will never change.
Sorry.
That being said, if a cyberattack is serious enough to lead to a direct war between two nations, then we would certainly analyse it, but only for its escalatory effects and how it affects the likelihood of nuke use.
 
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