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I generally try to avoid reply to bible topics, however this one needs to be addressed and labeled as false. The OP is referring to a passage at Revelation 8:12 where a third of the sun, the moon, and the stars were darkened. This passage does not say a third of mankind would be killed.
 
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.
 
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.

Hahaha, ed and your conspiracies, you always crack me up. :lol:
 
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.

I mean.... erm..... I'm not sure what to say to that.
I am not religious but even if I did beleive the bible there seems to be a lot of stretching things to fit going on here... :?
 
IrisFigg said:
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.

I mean.... erm..... I'm not sure what to say to that.
I am not religious but even if I did beleive the bible there seems to be a lot of stretching things to fit going on here... :?

What is this... I don't even...
 
jayfeather31 said:
IrisFigg said:
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.

I mean.... erm..... I'm not sure what to say to that.
I am not religious but even if I did beleive the bible there seems to be a lot of stretching things to fit going on here... :?

What is this... I don't even...
:lol:
 
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.


Give up already. You ain't proving crap here, nor you ever will with those funny little quotes and pathetic comparisons.
I could match this all with countless other conflicts and it would only prove that you're wrong.

I'm sorry for that but it had to be said.
It's good that you believe in something, though.
Shame that it's quite pointless...

I mean, nuclear war... Jesus...
 
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.

I'd like to address this. What caught my attention was the reference to the Chernobyl accident. I've seen this claim a number of times.

The Chernobyl accident can not possibly be the third trumpet. Let me quote the relevant scripture.

Rev 8:10: Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.

Rev 8:11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.


This event affects a third of the rivers and a third of the springs of water. It also states that "many men" died from the waters. Chernobyl in no way comes near the amount of devastation described by this event. While some claim (without evidence) that Chernobyl affected a third of the rivers in its area, Revelation makes no such limitation. Scripture says "of the rivers", not "of the rivers in the area."

Additionally, it states that "many men" died from the water. Yet there is very little evidence that more than a handful of people died from Chernobyl, most of those were the firefighters and other workers who where there trying to stop the thing from blowing up. Ancillary deaths are few, scattered, and debatable as to actual cause. Again, nowhere near the numbers that Revelation implies when it says "many" die, especially considering the vast numbers that Revelation already deals with.

Another difficulty in the above list is that the judgements are linear. One after the other. Not folded on themselves as the above list would have it.

Revelation is one of my favourite books of the Bible. Love reading it. And it's the only book of the Bible where the reader is given a blessing for actually reading it.
 
Lighthope said:
Ed50 said:
Ok Revelation 8:12 1/3 of the sun, moon and the stars are smitten. The time of relativity are lost by 1/3 sometime right after the Chernobyl Nuclear Accident back in 1986 if I remember correctly. So the time were cut short by 1/3 then Jesus' judgment is speeding up faster. There the saying "How times fly so fast" " Month gone so fast."

Here the crash course....
There are seven seals. There are ....
1) White Horse - Catholicism
2) Red Horse - Communism
3) Black Horse - Capitalism
4) Pale Horse / Grisley Bay Horse ... Green Horse - Islamism
5) Martyr - Great Tribulation- 2nd half of Tribulation
6) Sun became Black,Sun became blood, and stars are falling.... - Second Coming
7) Judgment

There are seven trumpet
1) World War One 1914-1918
2) World War Two 1939-1945
3) Chernobyl Nuclear Accident 1986
4) 1/3 of Time of Relativity are lost.
5) Gulf War 1990-1991 - 4 month.
6) World War III / Nuclear War - in our life time.
7) Second Coming

Seven Bowls of Wrath.
1-7) After the Second Coming....those are left behind are severely punish.

I'd like to address this. What caught my attention was the reference to the Chernobyl accident. I've seen this claim a number of times.

The Chernobyl accident can not possibly be the third trumpet. Let me quote the relevant scripture.

Rev 8:10: Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.

Rev 8:11 The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.


This event affects a third of the rivers and a third of the springs of water. It also states that "many men" died from the waters. Chernobyl in no way comes near the amount of devastation described by this event. While some claim (without evidence) that Chernobyl affected a third of the rivers in its area, Revelation makes no such limitation. Scripture says "of the rivers", not "of the rivers in the area."

Additionally, it states that "many men" died from the water. Yet there is very little evidence that more than a handful of people died from Chernobyl, most of those were the firefighters and other workers who where there trying to stop the thing from blowing up. Ancillary deaths are few, scattered, and debatable as to actual cause. Again, nowhere near the numbers that Revelation implies when it says "many" die, especially considering the vast numbers that Revelation already deals with.

Another difficulty in the above list is that the judgements are linear. One after the other. Not folded on themselves as the above list would have it.

Revelation is one of my favourite books of the Bible. Love reading it. And it's the only book of the Bible where the reader is given a blessing for actually reading it.

Very good and valid points. And since Tanith has sheathed his sword, I guess we can get away with this.

Frankly, this entire conversation in this thread could be its own subsection of the forum if it gets long enough! :lol:

Let's call it: The Conspiracy Section
 
Tanith said:
As I type I'm waiting for confirmation that more than 50,000 Squatty Potties are being shipped to Russia. Apparently the CIA has learned that many Russians suffer from constipation, and this famous product will help alleviate their symptoms and make them much easier to negotiate with, thus averting further escalation of conflicts.

It's actually pretty important to do that lol.
 
Tanith said:
I actually have an idea in mind for a thread, but I'll post it in the morning when my mind is fresh and not reeling from the revelation that Jay apparently thinks I'm a guy.

It's sort of related to all this.

;)

Oh..shit...jay buddy you are now in a hole of darkness.
 
Tanith said:
I actually have an idea in mind for a thread, but I'll post it in the morning when my mind is fresh and not reeling from the revelation that Jay apparently thinks I'm a guy.

:oops:

Ah... sorry, didn't mean to

Oh great... what have I started... why the heck did I put his instead of her when I knew beforehand that Tanith was a girl! :?
 
:oops:
DEFCONWarningSystem said:
Tanith said:
when my mind is fresh and not reeling from the revelation that Jay apparently thinks I'm a guy.

Well, most people think I'm Ryan, so welcome to the club of misidentification. :roll:
I dont. Your welcome. :D
 
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