PRC State Media: DPRK Won't "Provide Excuse" For USA to Attack, USA Can't Attack Per Unsure Extent PRC/RF Intervention

[Capstone]

As bad as a war would be I think I'd support it vs a 2025 where North Korea has hydrogen bombs, ICBM with MIRV and a fleet of new Gorae class submarines with SLBMs.

Yeah, I'd rather a war now than face that threat later since a realistic defense against those weapons seems far away.

 

[ThunderStealer]

Suspension for suspension. Yeah, because we can count on the North Koreans to hold up their ens of the bargain. They'd stall, continue testing until they've got their missile tech perfected, roll out production and then say "we've stop testing (because we don't need to test anymore), now you hold up your end of the bargain. KJU keeps making his missiles, we withdraw, he says "stupid Americans".

All diplomatic solutions would require some willingness to trust. We can always put in mechanisms to verify, but if we aren't even willing to try then we are either going to have the status quo, which is a continued North Korean nuclear and missile program that advances toward its ability to deliver weapons greater distances, or military action.

I'm not going to say diplomacy would work, but it might be worth a try as opposed to a highly destabilizing major war that could involve major powers and spiral out of control.

Lacking a diplomatic solution, I think a Stuxnet 2.0 would be in the interest of all parties. They lose their nuke program (for now), and we avoid a war.

 

[krzepice1976]

#BREAKING In call with Trump, Xi urges 'restraint' on N. Korea: report.
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/856363763888308224

 

[Obreid]

... with clear and defined outside enemies

Their beliefsystem dictates that they will have clear and defined enemies until the entire world embraces communism. That enemy will be the owner of the company you work for and the bank which owns the house you live in.

to a government at supposed peace and trying to develop a government.

They have a government. I would expect it to be highly developed as instructed by Marx and Engels in how the dictatorship of the proletariat is supposed to be set up in terms of administration.

A transition from the current Juche (isolationist) and Songun (army first) policies should peace magically be found, would be to reverse the changes made during implimentation of the Songun and expand the economy of DPRK to better the conditions of the people. If sometime in the future in a position of abundance, they will be obligated to "break" Juche and start supporting communists abroad.

As they will be attached to Hegelian dialectics by obligation, the Juche-doctrine is not created to be everlasting, but is a doctrine developed as a response to the downfall of global communism, meant to last for the next dialectic period in which capitalism will be in global power.

They will be waiting for the working classes of the world to experience what Marx describes as alienation (due to the organization of the capitalist production-line) and revolt against their masters. At that point, they will be obligated to lend support, even in the absence of abundance. As happened in 1981 when Mugabe asked Kim Il Sung for help in training his special forces of the fifth brigade.

Your correct they do have a government I misspoke. Perhaps a government with a different focus and mode of operating.

 

[krzepice1976]

The pressure China is putting on NorthKorea to stop developing nuclear weapons is unprecedented.
UK media -https://t.co/zc7UkUiCiJ

https://twitter.com/inside_nk/status/856924092913659904
https://twitter.com/inside_nk/status/856923066571608064