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DarkNoon said:
With or without the United States pressure China still going to "clean up". China still fully intends on being the world's number one producer of solar and wind energy.

Reason be is their land is so toxic, polluted, and destroyed their environment leading to mass illness, death, and extreme poor quality of life due to these reasons. Not sure if you noticed but China is now starting to have a population issue, shrinking very fast as well. Cleaning up their atrocious pollution will help this issue.
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Their population issues are largely thanks to their failed one child policy.
 
Friendly Engineer said:
Their population issues are largely thanks to their failed one child policy.
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Yes I put that in the last part of the paragraph because it wasn't really the biggest reason or main point as to why they're going to still "clean up", get rid of fossil fuels, and still be the biggest manufacturer and producer of green energy. Just would help that situation by helping people live longer.

Simply they have to. Their environment has become so polluted. It affects business and daily life way too much in a negative way. The CCP has said these very things. ITS NOT ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE but rather just cleaning up their environment so their citizens can be healthier which leads to better productivity and economic growth.

Hurts productivity having a sickly working class which leads to poor work quality or counterproductive.
 
Train said:
America/NATO needs to be giving Taiwan as much equipment as it can.

How they'll manage this alongside Taiwan, I dunno
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Hopefully China's just throwing a temper tantrum fit for a Queen and they don't invade or blockade Taiwan. Then things go back to normal in a couple months.
 
Train said:
Maybe, but it's not something the government should be brushing aside.
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If China has a blockade around Taiwan I don't see the West being able to supply Taiwan with any weapons. Not sure if the West has the will to risk getting into a shooting match with China by going through their blockade.

Rapidly sending weapons now would probably start an invasion. Very tricky situation, one that we'll just have to wait and see really.
 
Rapidly sending weapons now would probably start an invasion. Very tricky situation, one that we'll just have to wait and see really.
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It is now too late to delay anything.
The U.S. must send the Navy to end the Chinese blockade of Taiwan.
But China will see this as an act of war.
This time there is no other way out than to react.
 
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DucknCover said:
It is now too late to delay anything.
The U.S. must send the Navy to end the Chinese blockade of Taiwan.
But China will see this as an act of war.
This time there is no other way out than to react.
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I disagree. Let China have their temper tantrum right now, while attempting to build some "stability" in bilateral relations. Quite honestly, just like during the first Cold War, the United States' best strategy is to wait out China and Russia. Their political systems, built on contradictions ane repression, are doomed to collapse. We need to project strength, while encouraging all sides to respect the status quo.

We must do everything in our power to keep the status quo of Taiwan, just like we kept the status quo of Berlin.
 
willrod1989 said:
I disagree. Let China have their temper tantrum right now, while attempting to build some "stability" in bilateral relations. Quite honestly, just like during the first Cold War, the United States' best strategy is to wait out China and Russia. Their political systems, built on contradictions ane repression, are doomed to collapse. We need to project strength, while encouraging all sides to respect the status quo.

We must do everything in our power to keep the status quo of Taiwan, just like we kept the status quo of Berlin.
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Let us hope that like Berlin, each sides respective leaders can move the metaphorical tanks back, inch by inch.
 
DucknCover said:
US will conduct “air and maritime transits through the Taiwan Strait in the next few weeks
www.wsws.org

US pledges to send warships through Taiwan Strait in standoff with China

The relentless efforts by the Biden administration to provoke a war with China, underscored by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan, represent an enormous danger to the population of Taiwan, China, the Asia-Pacific region and the whole world.
www.wsws.org
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Any article that starts out with, "The relentless efforts of the ________ administration to provoke a war with ______" is automatically suspect in my mind. That is not impartial reporting.
 
RiffRaff said:
Any article that starts out with, "The relentless efforts of the ________ administration to provoke a war with ______" is automatically suspect in my mind. That is not impartial reporting.
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Well it was from the he “World Socialist Web Site”. It is to be expected.
That’s like getting your news from “Democracy Now”. Taught Rachael Maddow everything she knows and it shows.
 
DarkNoon said:
Even though the source isn't that great it is true. US is going to do military drills there.
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The US conducts drills all the time. So does Russia. So does China. So does North Korea.
The Biden administration is hardly in a "relentless" pursuit of war with China. Or Russia.
 
RiffRaff said:
The US conducts drills all the time. So does Russia. So does China. So does North Korea.
The Biden administration is hardly in a "relentless" pursuit of war with China. Or Russia.
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Oh yeah source sucks. I did say the source sucks. But wanted to clarify that the drills are real/going to happen and not fake news. Nothing to worry about. But didn't want people to think the drills were fake either...
 
Let um keep playing their little war games. Right now the west (mainly the US) is probing their electronic spectrums (radars and such) and targeting where those missiles are coming from. If they get stupid they are gonna get hit with shock and awe like you have never seen. IMO
 
I feel the US is walking into a trap. If the US starts something China will attack all our bases in the pacific along with all our ships that are within range. Also China in the Past; stated multiple times that if US attacks China's mainland they will strike the US mainland cities back. When missiles are flying towards you that are capable of carrying nuclear warheads it can cause over reaction and I think the US will deploy a tactical nuclear bomb to stop or slow the attacks onslaught.

China will show the world how the west are the ones not to be trusted causing the world to turn on the US. Russia which has stated that they consider the US a party to the Ukraine war and officially still being at war with Japan could attack the US. Russia could join China along with North Korea in the attacks and it could be horrific for our forces.
 
Peace said:
I feel the US is walking into a trap. If the US starts something China will attack all our bases in the pacific along with all our ships that are within range. Also China in the Past; stated multiple times that if US attacks China's mainland they will strike the US mainland cities back. When missiles are flying towards you that are capable of carrying nuclear warheads it can cause over reaction and I think the US will deploy a tactical nuclear bomb to stop or slow the attacks onslaught.

China will show the world how the west are the ones not to be trusted causing the world to turn on the US. Russia which has stated that they consider the US a party to the Ukraine war and officially still being at war with Japan could attack the US. Russia could join China along with North Korea in the attacks and it could be horrific for our forces.
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Excuse me, but have you ever been a member of congress? This looks like it was quoted from ‘Team America World Police’.
 
Braver911 said:
Excuse me, but have you ever been a member of congress? This looks like it was quoted from ‘Team America World Police’.
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Thanks for the compliment (sarc), I was one of the useful idiots doing my part of the world police by bombing and killing everything to bring peace to the middle east
 
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