Russia threatening nuclear showdown

[Geeg]

The Elbe Group is a real group of persons which consist of former American and Russian government officials. You can look up their website.

Have fun sticking your head in the sand emphram.

We know they are real, but they aren't the ones who would make threats. This also doesn't give any logical explenation on how they found this "note" from an "american". Did they find it in a cafe? Did somebody, who works in a SECRET GROUP, just decide to give away TOP SECRET MEETING information?

I find it really fishy.

 

[ArmyATC]

The landing of two US fighter jets on Taiwan on Wednesday has angered China’s Foreign Ministry. While the Pentagon says the planes suffered mechanical trouble while flying a routine training exercise, others see it as a political message, warning China to slow its growing influence.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/asia/20150402/1020385361.html#ixzz3WGj21Tfm

Looks like some activity in Tiawan.

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-ships-old-arctic-nato-set-alarms-bells-050008186.html

Looks like Putin just took over an old NATO Nowegian base that was sold on the Internet a while back. Now there are RF ships docked there.

US warships joined Saudi fighter jets in the strikes against Houthi rebels in Sanaa on Monday. On March 25, a ten-country coalition led by Saudi Arabia began firing air-to-ground missiles on Houthi positions upon the Hadi’s appeal for help.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150401/1020296066.html#ixzz3WGkAekQk

And the US Navy has officially commenced hostilities in Yemen.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11513341/Greece-draws-up-drachma-plans-prepares-to-miss-IMF-payment.html

And last but not least, Greece may end up turning to Russia for aid, thus furthering the demise of the EU.

Wow! The world is getting pretty crazy.

 

[ThunderStealer]

Didn't anyone remember April fools day?...

Yes, but that to all appearances is a legitimate story and not a "prank".

The story is largely ignored by the public and by most news networks. It is terribky written, makes no sense, and probably absolutely false.

Our media, most media in general, has a bad habit of ignoring relevant news stories and sticks to either tabloid fluff, or corporate talking points.

 

[AlbertGrand]

An independent UK slant on this.

http://theconversation.com/dangerous-talk-can-only-muddy-waters-as-crisis-between-west-and-russia-deepens-39725

Pretty good, apart from two points... he overeggs the pudding on Minsk 2, which, rather than a 'great start' is a ticking time-bomb; and possibly, he mis-interprets this:

Perhaps the most telling phrase in The Times article is the statement that when Russia talks about using nuclear weapons it is time to sit up and take notice. That is precisely the problem. Only when Russia is confrontational does anyone listen. Actually, the time to take notice was five years ago when a conciliatory Putin was talking about a Europe from Dublin to Vladivostok, but no one did. Today’s rhetoric in Moscow is of a Eurasia stretching from St Petersburg to Shanghai. Is that what the West wants?

I think someone did take notice - the PTB in the United States. And they didn't like it. Which is possibly why we're in the mess we're currently in.

 

[ArmyATC]

Rather than start another thread, I'm including this story here as well. Not sure how The Daily Beast stacks up as a trustworthy source, but if Putin is referring to Ukraine as "New Russia" as the article states he is, we may really be in for trouble more quickly than we thought...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/31/putin-threatens-nuclear-war-over-ukraine.html

:shock:

Yes Tanith, I'm not sure how any of them stack up. Truth is the first causality of war. Again, the fact there is an obvious fight for control of information, it makes it difficult to asserting.

Most important thing, follow the money and qui bono? We are simply a group of people trying to apply reason and intellect to an obscuration and disinformation campaign that is state sponsored by nearly every G20 power.

There are no political solutions to a spiritual problem. All the more dangerous, since I see a geopolitical realignment away from the dollar. The rest of the world is projecting outward, although internal capital controls and the limit of transportation seems endemic in the big 4 capitols.

Although the US seems to be emphasizing domestic operations, in violation of Posse Commentatis. The new military is compared of millennials that have no problem following orders without question. Remember they don't remember life before DHS, TSA etc.

Very disturbing.

 

[Upshot]

Re: above comments, vis a vis, the millennial generations willingness to do exactly what the television and smart phone tells them to do.
The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind(1976), by Julian Jaynes.
In less than a generation, the developed world has slid from the rational, evolved being, back to the crap covered monkey listening to religious-political demigogs. O barry!, Vlad the terrible, the view, facebook, for the majority of 'people', equals the word of god. For instance,look at the current freak-out over a micky-mouse training execise going on-the much feared 'jade helm' stink. Good gravy! What in the heck happened to rational thought. :roll:
I see no simple, or even nice solution for this pickle. A cull is long past due.

 

[ArmyATC]

Re: above comments, vis a vis, the millennial generations willingness to do exactly what the television and smart phone tells them to do.
The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind(1976), by Julian Jaynes.
In less than a generation, the developed world has slid from the rational, evolved being, back to the crap covered monkey listening to religious-political demigogs. O barry!, Vlad the terrible, the view, facebook, for the majority of 'people', equals the word of god. For instance,look at the current freak-out over a micky-mouse training execise going on-the much feared 'jade helm' stink. Good gravy! What in the heck happened to rational thought. :roll:
I see no simple, or even nice solution for this pickle. A cull is long past due.

Yes Upshot, I agree. No matter how many angles we look this, it's amazing how most have been convinced not to believe their own eyes, their intuition, and have succomed to lost critical thinking which is no longer even taught.

Their will be a culling, and the move out of the dollar will be the one thing I believe anyone with logic cant deny will precipitate a massive world shockwave the likes of which will dwarf anything ever seen. At least in the Great Depression people knew basic survival skills and the police weren't militarized and we were a rural nation.

Now, to stay on topic, here's a link.

http://www.janes.com/article/49886/update-bulgaria-to-be-offered-jf-17-fighter-by-pakistan

Bulgaria is saying they want an air force. They are in between the Crimea to the East and Bosnia, Chech to the west. And yes they are NATO, so why are they buying Pakistani (Chinas puppet) hardware. Again all ties back to AIIB and CIPS (alternative to SWIFT).

People must see a rapid move from the dollar has just happened. And the Chinese have all the pieces in place to make it logistically happen.

This cannot be stopped, and it seems our military has turned its attention inward instead of the token little exercises to give the impression we are engaged more than we are.

The military trains for the environment it will fight in. Let that sink in.

 

[ArmyATC]

http://rt.com/news/246869-global-strike-missile-defense/

The RF state news spin cycle going to extra lengths here. Says tested a system to counter a US Global Precision Strike (conventional) but can be used to deter nukes. Also says RF has installed unmanned ABMS along the arctic which are automated and only require monthly maintainance (ripe for covert destruction). They also say the will use their Mig 31s to defend trade routes, like I was talking about with Putty Boy's little EEU. How nice for him.

Looks like they through in everything but the kitchen sink, but is it me or did it go so over the top as to make RF look paranoid and uncertain?

Still think they can well defend themselves, but they are smearing it on thick with all they say they are going to do by 2020. They seem to think we will have 600 nuke cruise missiles by then , according to general last week in Congress, it will be late 2020s before that.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/northcom-russian-cruise-missile-threat-to-u-s-grows/