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We have all of Twitter/X for political in-fighting. Is it really necessary to do it here?
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Save The Forums & Remove the Political Subsection
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I do not have X or Facetube. I don’t think I am the only one. But I might be….
It's not. Not the purpose of these forums to see and do the garbage that is on twitter. And only hurts this place & viewership retention.
I thought the purpose of these forums was to monitor and assess nuclear threats. But guess I was wrong.
Should change the name of the place than if we not focused on the mission statement here and allowing party politics, which has ZERO relation to nuclear threats.
Geopolitics does. Not party politics. How does abortion and gun rights effect nuclear war? They do not. Though I'd like to see you try and somehow explain that one.
Next excuse to keep this toxic shit on the forums with ZERO relation to nuclear threats?
I cannot ever recall during my time as staff ever discussing Abortion or Gun Rights in threat assessments for nuclear war or even publicly. But hey, prove me wrong.
Of course it does.
Okay.
The real problem is we do not have sufficient coverage of foreign nuclear powers internal politics. I sure as hell want to know if radicals seem to be gaining power over those with a tenuous script on power in , for example, Pakistan.
The US could have a dementia addled fool asleep at the wheel and no one would know. Because his party and the major press outlets choose to hide it. If something crazy and far fetched like that was happening, we need to know.
Who has guns in America (70-80%)and how many (twice the number of people) plays directly into whether or not there is a revolt and civil war over election fraud (real or perceived).
Abortion issues can swing entire elections and maybe instead of a brain fried old man with his arthritic hand one the button whilst taking advice from his son between lines or an obnoxious egotistical megalomaniac named Al Czervik dropping anchor.
It is all intertwined worldwide and I am saddened you cannot see that (you can however see your crimson displeasure indicator
)We need MORE political coverage not less!
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That geopolitics which has its own subsection.
True.
The Director is set in his "ways". And I have know the Director for quite sometime now... And when he is "set in his ways" there's no budging him.
I infact given up on this endeavor, like yesterday because I have had this exact song and dance with Director many times. I know it's not going to happen.
EVEN THOUGH it should happen, if The DWS wants to truly "reach for the stars" or beyond it's popularity that it already has. Political subsection is what's holding this place back and has already done quite the damage over the years.
Do what every successful bussines does and focus on your core/niche. You know, what actually makes you money, and what actually drives people to the websites.
If you want to keep Politics, make another forums for it. I even said I'd pay for the URL domain 5 years up front. Forums software free. What you waiting for?
I infact given up on this endeavor, like yesterday because I have had this exact song and dance with Director many times. I know it's not going to happen.
EVEN THOUGH it should happen, if The DWS wants to truly "reach for the stars" or beyond it's popularity that it already has. Political subsection is what's holding this place back and has already done quite the damage over the years.
Do what every successful bussines does and focus on your core/niche. You know, what actually makes you money, and what actually drives people to the websites.If you want to keep Politics, make another forums for it. I even said I'd pay for the URL domain 5 years up front. Forums software free. What you waiting for?
Your going to have that in any bussines. That doesn't mean you divert from what makes you money and what your business mission/niche is. That's when you double down on it.
You don't see Halloween express selling burgers half the year and then selling costumes for a month out of the year. No. They stick to what brings them money and what their customers know of them and want from them which is selling Halloween garbage.
That is the most perfect analogy btw. Lol
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Nor do I. No TwitterX, no Myfacespace, no telegram, no snapchat, no instapic. I have do have a Classmates and LinkedIn account, but never use them. I have a Google account but not for online-social activities. My activity on this site is actually the most "social" I get online.
You can relax. Same for you @Torch. As I said director won't go for it. I known him a long time and he is locked in on keeping it, nothing is going to change that. So giving up on this, as it will only hurt each others feelings if I keep pressing him.
However hope overtime Director will come around to the idea of a entire new separate DWS forum just for politics. Where the rules could be more relaxed too and more freedom of speech which I know the director loves. 
So your not getting rid of politics, just moving it down the street into a new home.
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I certainly get your point about the politics. Unfiltered expressions of political opinion that are on the extreme edges of the continuum or political positions that might be perceived as extreme by the viewer because they are in direct opposition to their positions might cause some people to stay away from the site. It is a very valid concern from a marketing perspective. I could support a future where a political sub forum becomes an extra "subscription" like scenario where the viewer only sees political forums after subscribing to it and acknowledging some rules/terms of use. But the forum technology would need to support it with ease and low cost. Content moderation would likely need to be stepped up to ensure politics stays out of non-political sections. And that is going to introduce its own censorship concerns. It is inevitable that politics will escape its isolation in some form and then be mismanaged.You can relax. Same for you @Torch. As I said director won't go for it. I known him a long time and he is locked in on keeping it, nothing is going to change that. So giving up on this, as it will only hurt each others feelings if I keep pressing him.
But @Torch has a point too. Abortion and gun rights on their own may have no impact on the nuclear posture of a nation. However, they are a potential barometer of the underlying political current within a country. If one side of those debates starts to win in the arena of ideas and electorally within a country, it could be an indicator of the prevailing politics, troubles, peace, reform, or revolution within that country. And if that country is a nuclear power, well the outcome could be magnified.
One could argue that it could be covered in Geopolitics sub forums. But then I have to ask again, where is the dividing line between an "out of bounds" national political issue and a relevant geopolitical issue? There is a quote that says "All politics is local." In democratic systems, elected officials must either represent the prevailing opinion of their districts, or convince their districts that the elected official's position is the right position. This includes positions related to defense posture, conflict engagement, and strategic weapons use. Thus local political debates may have global relevance. Since this is a US-based forum, we mostly see US-based debates. Maybe @Torch is right - to get a better understanding of the global picture, we need more political reporting from more nations, not just the US.
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