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Suspected Plague Outbreak in Siberia

Another COVID, Monkeypox, Hantavirus, Ebola, related PTSD event (for now).
Just chatter and speculation (again...for now).
From the information we have it could be a bacteria modified in a way that gives pneumonia and turns water into wine before killing the host, or a virus that makes you poop candies, or just normal pulmonary plague.

FSB involvement on the transport of the contacts, is also unsourced.

The only certain thing is that there's no trace of secondary cases.
Keeping in mind that certainty with Russia, is not a rock solid concept.
 
Charmender said:
Another COVID, Monkeypox, Hantavirus, Ebola, related PTSD event (for now).
Just chatter and speculation (again...for now).
From the information we have it could be a bacteria modified in a way that gives pneumonia and turns water into wine before killing the host, or a virus that makes you poop candies, or just normal pulmonary plague.

FSB involvement on the transport of the contacts, is also unsourced.

The only certain thing is that there's no trace of secondary cases.
Keeping in mind that certainty with Russia, is not a rock solid concept.
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I’m not an infectious disease expert, but from my understanding this disease’s maximum incubation period is 4 days and she died on the 2nd. In theory, if there was a second case we should have seen it by now. Meanwhile 60% of people got out of quarantine for it today, and a couple of the hospitals went back to normal. The Russian government can lie all it wants, but there would have been some leak on telegram by now.
 
Snowfall said:
I’m not an infectious disease expert, but from my understanding this disease’s maximum incubation period is 4 days and she died on the 2nd. In theory, if there was a second case we should have seen it by now. Meanwhile 60% of people got out of quarantine for it today, and a couple of the hospitals went back to normal. The Russian government can lie all it wants, but there would have been some leak on telegram by now.
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There's rumors of a second case, but it's all unsourced bullshit coming from local outlets.
The problem with Russia, is that it's so corrupt, unequal and divided (despite what Putin said), that everyone is fighting for a moment of glory.
Russia intrinsecally comes with a feature...the fact that it's "evil" naturally amplifies every single thing that happens there from a mediatic standpoint.

Therefore it should be treated for what it is...something suspect and relevant of course.
But skipping steps and jumping to conclusions has no real purpose and only feeds paranoia and misinformation.

It's not also true that the lab is a BW facility...Billingslea downplayed his own statement.
"The Irkusk institute is not mentioned by name, but rather indirectly as part of “the former USSR's anti-plague infrastructure” where agents were developed for biological warfare (p.4)."

Even if it was a BW research facility, this does not automatically relate to something modified having been released.

The bacteria itself is not easy to spread person by person.
You can modify it but you cannot change in a lab its own core features.

The fact that most of the people have been released from quarantine is already a very positive news.
 
Through an international health alert system, Russian health officials on Tuesday said a full range of preventive measures had been carried out — including tracing of the deceased woman's contacts, medical monitoring and lab tests.


"Test results showed no presence of dangerous infectious disease pathogens in any of the contacts," said the note from Russian authorities, which was relayed to The Associated Press by WHO.
www.pbs.org

How Russia and the world are responding to a possible case of pneumonic plague after lab worker death

The World Health Organization says a possible case of pneumonic plague in Russia presents a “very low” risk outside the country as investigators look into what caused the death of a lab employee there last week.
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From The Washington Post:

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The Trump administration is preparing to send a formal diplomatic message to Russia requesting more information about the reported death linked to a facility in Siberia that studies pneumonic plague and a number of subsequent quarantines, according to U.S. officials.
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The planned request comes amid growing U.S. frustration about the lack of detailed information from Russia after its public health agency reported that a laboratory worker employed at an institute dedicated to studying plague in the Irkutsk region had died after being diagnosed with pneumonia of “unknown” origin.
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A formal message from the United States — known as a démarche in diplomatic lingo — would seek to remind Russia that it has obligations under international law to share information about disease outbreaks with other governments in a timely manner, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters.

Russian authorities have imposed quarantines on several hospitals in the area, but health officials have downplayed the severity of the situation. There remains no confirmation that the deceased lab worker had contracted pneumonic plague, an airborne variant of the bubonic plague.

The planning for a formal U.S. request came as Secretary of State Marco Rubio said it was “incumbent upon Russia to obviously share more information with the world.” Rubio said at a news conference in Iceland on Monday that it’s “what they should do, and that’s what we hope they will do.”

Dmitry Peskov, a Kremlin spokesperson, told reporters Tuesday that Rospotrebnadzor, Russia’s health watchdog, was “providing all necessary information” regarding the case.

U.S. preparing formal request to Russia for information on plague death
The State Department is pushing Moscow for details about the potential leak of pneumonic plague in Siberia.

The Trump administration is preparing to send a formal diplomatic message to Russia requesting more information about the reported death linked to a facility in Siberia that studies pneumonic plague and a number of subsequent quarantines, according to U.S. officials.

A formal message from the United States — known as a démarche in diplomatic lingo — would seek to remind Russia that it has obligations under international law to share information about disease outbreaks with other governments in a timely manner, the officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters.

Russian authorities have imposed quarantines on several hospitals in the area, but health officials have downplayed the severity of the situation. There remains no confirmation that the deceased lab worker had contracted pneumonic plague, an airborne variant of the bubonic plague.

The planning for a formal U.S. request came as Secretary of State Marco Rubio said it was “incumbent upon Russia to obviously share more information with the world.” Rubio said at a news conference in Iceland on Monday that it’s “what they should do, and that’s what we hope they will do.”

Dmitry Peskov, a Kremlin spokesperson, told reporters Tuesday that Rospotrebnadzor, Russia’s health watchdog, was “providing all necessary information” regarding the case.


Pedestrians in the town of Shelekhov in the Irkutsk region on Tuesday. (Stringer/Reuters)
The concern over the reported death coincides with broader tensions between Washington and Moscow, most significantly over Russian President Vladimir Putin’s continued war in Ukraine despite repeated attempts to broker peace by President Donald Trump and his envoys. The Wall Street Journal first reported that the U.S. was planning a démarche to Russia.

Speaking to reporters on Monday, Trump said he was concerned about the reports and noted that “the germs have really become relatively stronger than they were and things that used to work on pneumonia don’t work as well anymore.” The president also said that the U.S. was ready to help Russia with the situation.
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Charmender said:
There's rumors of a second case, but it's all unsourced bullshit coming from local outlets.
The problem with Russia, is that
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From my understanding, the report of a second case comes from a report that put he instead of she, in reference to the original patient, but later corrected it. The daily mail is the only source I’ve seen publish it, and I trust them less then I trust the kremlin.
 
Since the first media reports,
@WHO
has been actively following up on the reported death of a laboratory worker at the Irkutsk Antiplague Research Institute in Irkutsk oblast, Russian Federation. The individual died on 2 October 2026 after being hospitalised with severe pneumonia. Initial media reports suggested pneumonic plague following an alleged accidental laboratory exposure.In response to WHO’s verification request under the International Health Regulations, the Russian health authorities reported that no case of plague had recently been registered in Irkutsk oblast. They informed WHO that an epidemiological investigation had been conducted, preventive and control measures implemented, and identified contacts placed under medical observation and tested. They reported that no high-threat pathogens had been detected among the contacts and that medical observation of all identified contacts had been completed.WHO has remained in contact with the Russian health authorities and has offered technical support. WHO has requested further information to clarify the cause of the severe pneumonia, the pathogen that prompted the public health measures, and media reports of a second employee with pneumonia of undetermined cause.Timely, complete and transparent information sharing under the International Health Regulations is essential to clarify conflicting reports and enable an accurate assessment of potential public health risks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2107591815863968121
 
Charmender said:
There's rumors of a second case, but it's all unsourced bullshit coming from local outlets.
The problem with Russia, is that it's so corrupt, unequal and divided (despite what Putin said), that everyone is fighting for a moment of glory.
Russia intrinsecally comes with a feature...the fact that it's "evil" naturally amplifies every single thing that happens there from a mediatic standpoint.

Therefore it should be treated for what it is...something suspect and relevant of course.
But skipping steps and jumping to conclusions has no real purpose and only feeds paranoia and misinformation.

It's not also true that the lab is a BW facility...Billingslea downplayed his own statement.
"The Irkusk institute is not mentioned by name, but rather indirectly as part of “the former USSR's anti-plague infrastructure” where agents were developed for biological warfare (p.4)." Do you have a link for this statement? How can you say it's not a BW facility when the very next sentence says this, "part of “the former USSR's anti-plague infrastructure” where agents were developed for biological warfare"

Even if it was a BW research facility, this does not automatically relate to something modified having been released.

The bacteria itself is not easy to spread person by person.
You can modify it but you cannot change in a lab its own core features.

The fact that most of the people have been released from quarantine is already a very positive news.
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I really hope you're right.
 
Irag8er said:
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The supposed second case stems from a media report by the daily mail, it cites no local sources, no telegram accounts, nothing. Multiple journalists have reported they cannot track down the original source of the report. But now the story will spread like wildfire, yet there is zero evidence whatsoever. Meanwhile 90% of those in quarantine have now been released.
 
Snowfall said:
The supposed second case stems from a media report by the daily mail, it cites no local sources, no telegram accounts, nothing. Multiple journalists have reported they cannot track down the original source of the report. But now the story will spread like wildfire, yet there is zero evidence whatsoever. Meanwhile 90% of those in quarantine have now been released.
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I am aware of that. Also,a possible explanation for the the second case has been chalked up to misgendering the original victim.
An outlet identified them as a mail.
Still soooo much is unknown, that the article is still valid as far as info goes.
 
Irag8er said:
I am aware of that. Also,a possible explanation for the the second case has been chalked up to misgendering the original victim.
An outlet identified them as a mail.
Still soooo much is unknown, that the article is still valid as far as info goes.
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Yep just adding some context because the original article didn’t have any about it.
 
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