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60 years later. nuclear weapons are significantly more advanced, faster, and ready to fire - not just at Ukraine, but anywhere - fact. To West militarists (understandably) enthused about Ukraine attacking across the Russia border, imagine the USA response if USSR-armed Cuba was attacking in Florida cities. Would JFK be "bluffing"? But because Russia dictator Putin is cruel, many in the West assume he is "bluffing." Wishful thinking is not strategic thinking.
Yet again this is not Cuba 1962.
There were no plans or inclinations to place western nuclear warheads in Ukraine.
Conversely there were no demands for Russia and Cuba to break any and all military relations or placement of Russian forces “90” miles from the US.
During or after the CMC. Yet that is the very demands Russia is making here.

It is not a comparable problem.
Shall NATO demand removal of all Iskander missile systems from Belarus or threaten to invade them because those missiles are a immediate strategic threat to multiple nato capitals. Remember it is the president of Belarus who keeps bringing up the possibility of nuclear iskanders in Belarus.

Is that what your implying is the basis for acceptable foreign policy justifications. If it is then NATO has the right by them same standards that all Iskander systems be removed from Belarus because they are an imminent threat to Warsaw, Vilnius or Riga.

Also I would assume rightly IF the US had invaded Cuba to remove all Russian military influence and force Cubans to speak English. Cuba enabled by Russia would strike out at American military facilities that facilitated the US invasion of their nation.
And it would be an improbable and faulty assumption to think they might not.
Russia invaded a sovereign nation and somehow you think that nation does not have a right to repel that invasion?
Well yes they have a right to defend themselves, but it any one or groups of nations determine to aid them with military equipment and resources then now it’s no that’s not really self defense anymore. But is infact a war of aggression against the mother land.

That is wishful thinking on the part of Russia not the west.

History lesson.
Ukraine had not joined nato or EU when Russia seized Crimea in 2014 and had emergency referendums.
Now I’m 2022 they have tried the same thing and taken too big of a bite. And has resulted in tens of thousands dead.
Now they want to claim snap referendums in the middle of an armed invasion with shrinking front lines.
And somehow define this still tenuously held territory as sovereign Russia?

Well what is it going to be in 2028, will the have regrouped enough then to make a play to occupy and have snap referendums yet again?

Ukraine is a people and a nation who have by the majority rejected Russias demands for obligatory subservience.
 

es7129

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Chatter that Zelensky is in panic mode and is upset with the US and NATO. He doesn't want to be a martyr and is freaking out about Oct 5th. Are his handlers losing control?
Doesn’t the annexation and the threat just embolden UA to go right for Crimea?
We’ve already green lit the use of US supplied weapons for the counterattack.
 

DarkNoon

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IMO whilst everyone is talking LYN’s or TNW’s the Russians will hit with Chemical weapons
I would say given recent set backs already by Russia mean the likly hood of a non-nuclear WMD use is definitely skyrocketing... 😑
 

Seriously

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IMO whilst everyone is talking LYN’s or TNW’s the Russians will hit with Chemical weapons
Need to put a caveat on this tweet. It is decidedly old tech. Horses haven’t been used in the Russian battle for a decade or two and is reportedly from a Russian movie about Afghanistan.
This is not Russians equipping to use chemical weapons in Ukraine.
Might want to consider removing from reports
 

DarkNoon

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I would say given recent set backs already by Russia mean the likly hood of a non-nuclear WMD use is definitely skyrocketing... 😑
Even though that was a fake video I still stand by this anylisis. The chance is only increasing everyday Russia continues to lose in these territories.
 
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