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UA-RU | May 1st-20th | DISCUSSIONS

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Yury said:
It is not work for western constructs. Everyone here says that Putin is a tyrant, while russians are fully support him and his power. People really vote for him. Of course it is not 100% support, but around 70% of russians like Putin.
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People support this?


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Yury said:
It is not work for western constructs. Everyone here says that Putin is a tyrant, while russians are fully support him and his power. People really vote for him. Of course it is not 100% support, but around 70% of russians like Putin.
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Misinformation. Even the @DEFCON Warning System says polls/stats are NOT accurate in Russia where they are conducted and manipulated by government. People in Russia don't have a choice but to support Putin.

Not to mention the Russian people only know what is spoon fed to them by their government ran only media. As the majority of Russians only get their news from state ran radio or state ran TV.

Elections in Russia are a sham and not free. There is only one person on that ballot and you know it.
 
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Obreid said:
Wow there are some pretty large Russian populations in the US should we be expecting a visit.
That is not a reason on invade and seize part of another nation.
Do better be honest you believe Russia should take Odessa thus depriving Ukraine or a black see port.

Let’s talk about Kaliningrad. Were there a lot of Russians there prior or during its existence of a a Prussian nation?
Would you trade Kaliningrad for Odessa and Mariupol?
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You may be wasting your breath with this character. Almost seems like someone is on the staff over at the Kremlin, lol.
 
DarkNoon said:
I don't let Americans (left or right) either crap their party politics misinformation/conspiracies too. So don't think I am singling out people or nationalities.

Discuss with facts, logic, and sources. Not misinformation, lies, and wildly inaccurate poorly conceived claims.
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That’s true I’ve had to correct him frequently 😂😂😂😂
I’m sorry man I needed a humor jab😏
 
Rhazaghul said:
You may be wasting your breath with this character. Almost seems like someone is on the staff over at the Kremlin, lol.
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I am aware of this. I find it hard to not respond and allow what I consider wildly inaccurate or misrepresentative claims or propositions to be made with out some kind of reasoned response to be given.
To me is important to respond to them as capably as I can. Either by refuting factually incorrect claims. Or by deconstructing the logic and showing why it’s incorrect or at the least insufficient to support the claims being made.
I suppose sometimes I’m tedious about it. I find it useful for myself to try and hear what they are saying, deciding if I agree and then try and respond to them on why I believe they are incorrect.
The debate only further shows why their proposition are faulty when the refuse answer pointed questions.
I am no great fan of the UN but The sec gen of the UN made a very succinct statement when he met with RFM Larov.
“There is one thing that is true and obvious. We don't have Ukrainian troops in Russia, but have Russian troops in Ukraine.”
 
Saguenay said:
Wow, what a sensational analysis! You just told the whole world this fact!
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No I quoted the Secretary General of the UN. He’s the the one who succinctly distilled down the realities of the situation between Ukraine and Russia
For you however I’ll make an excepting and ignore, because circular logic is self defeating and requires no response
 
Obreid said:
No I quoted the Secretary General of the UN. He’s the the one who succinctly distilled down the realities of the situation between Ukraine and Russia
For you however I’ll make an excepting and ignore, because circular logic is self defeating and requires no response
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It was irony!
 
RiffRaff said:
To the best of my knowledge, none of the staff are associated with any government agency.
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It's not staff. It's just a few people that point at an old project and say if we had that, we must have 10x that in the making now. Like sure we're on the brink as always, but like.. mostly everyone has the info and the stuff on a project (everyone being countries with any type of okay program). A lot of people leak and sell info in this game for ethical reasons, they don't want one country abusing the power.

The scummy part is if you've been apart of anything you get flooded with the see something and say something because the "leaking" Is creating problems because Fiveeyes is basically making stuff and paying for it, but other countries will get the project info and developments for free. Meanwhile the same happens in other countries.

Modern shit is still like highschool gossip/chatter. You know who's going to get beat, you know who the nerds are, and you know who the weirdos are. You know someone is going to fight someone, and you know which class Is doing what experiment.

The crazy part is you still have some individuals that want to see the world burn and they leak information that'll cause real trouble, aka a ticking time bomb (zero day, unstable engineering, and you know the deal). Basically they'll leave an exploit to come back later or let another person develop something to just destroy it when the time comes (this is big in aerospace/tech). Think of a asset making reactor regulator software for you, but they purposely leave something in so they can blackmail you in 5 years, or the same for uav's or the electronics associated with planes and this is because a few scientists don't know everything, so mistakes and exploits will slip through.

As an example: I've heard some stuff about Russian air defenses, basically they have built in stuff for the Russians to exploit and basically fly in without being detected on their own stuff which is why turkey was heckled by the united states for attempting to buy, but I don't fully know if it's true. Ive only heard it from some old people who know about that field of radar/electronics.
 
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