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Ammunition Hunger Games in Bakhmut​



Wow! Very good article. Resonates with me.
The Hunger Games?

I’m sorry man it was the Hunger Games blurb and resonating with you combination that humored me
 

Ammunition Hunger Games in Bakhmut​



Wow! Very good article. Resonates with me.
WOW is right, very powerful! But it begs the question, where the hell is the billions of dollars in just materials/ammo go? Too expensive to use........saving it for a spring offensive? WTF
 
WOW is right, very powerful! But it begs the question, where the hell is the billions of dollars in just materials/ammo go? Too expensive to use........saving it for a spring offensive? WTF
That question is probably answered by also asking where are the Bradleys? They are there somewhere. The leopard twos just got there, because Norway flew them in, but I don’t think the rest of the leopard 2. have arrived, yet along with the marauder fighting vehicles. However the Bradley’s are there and they’re sitting in an informational black hole, which is awesome.
 
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That question is probably answered by also asking where are the Bradleys? They are there somewhere. The leopard twos just got there, because Norway flew them in, but I don’t think the rest of the leopard 2. haven’t arrived, yet along with the marauder fighting vehicles. But the Bradley’s are there and they’re sitting in an informational black hole.
*CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT*
The possibility always crosses my mind that the probably Trillions of dollars in Western equipment given to Ukraine is nothing more than the pre-positioning of supplies for the inevitable NATO involvement
 
*CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT*
The possibility always crosses my mind that the probably Trillions of dollars in Western equipment given to Ukraine is nothing more than the pre-positioning of supplies for the inevitable NATO involvement
Could be, but we have overtly moved many metric shit-tons of equipment right up to Russia’s borders. Not really a secret we are ready to hand them their ass. Imo.
 
*CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT*
The possibility always crosses my mind that the probably Trillions of dollars in Western equipment given to Ukraine is nothing more than the pre-positioning of supplies for the inevitable NATO involvement
The Ukrainians have been forming 11 new mechanized brigades for the last few months, and one mechanized airmobile brigade for the same amount of time. 4 of them in Poltova, which can soon reinforce the Lyman direction or Bakhmut direction as needed. 1 in Kyiv. And the rest are being formed in Lviv. With respect to how long it has taken to reform the 93rd mechanized brigade, I would say most if not all of these brigades will be fully trained within the next two to three weeks.
 
To little to late. Russia is winning and will win this fight regardless of others beliefs or dreams. The west cannot afford to go head to head with Russia or keep up support and supply compared to Russian capabilities and capacity. Sanctions did shit except hurt the globe equally and the outcome will be a slap in the face for those who believe otherwise.
 
To little to late. Russia is winning and will win this fight regardless of others beliefs or dreams. The west cannot afford to go head to head with Russia or keep up support and supply compared to Russian capabilities and capacity. Sanctions did shit except hurt the globe equally and the outcome will be a slap in the face for those who believe otherwise.
Oh lord you just don’t give up do you yingyang.
Bakhmut is a stalemate for Russia they could t take on damn city in five weeks.
That is not winning, it’s treading water.
What happens to their 2nd or 3rd rumored mobilizations.
They dont even seem to possess their actual historic artillery bombardment capabilities anymore.
At best it’s a stalemate right now and they don’t have much of a bench left to pull from.
Edit this isn’t an attack on yingyang just two guys talking.
 
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*CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT*
The possibility always crosses my mind that the probably Trillions of dollars in Western equipment given to Ukraine is nothing more than the pre-positioning of supplies for the inevitable NATO involvement
I don’t know about the equipment designated for Ukraine but it Is not a conspiracy theory that nato is bulking out their eastern front.
With proposed plans to build up to 300000 troops.

This is necessary not that I see nato entering the fight in Ukraine. But it is necessary to show strength.
We forget the importance of responding demonstrably with numbers to show intent and resolve.
The USSR didn’t collapse in war they collapsed because Reagan demonstrated that nato would always be able to overwhelm and outspend them.
It’s better posture appropriately and deter a fight, than walk blindly into one.
 
Oh lord you just don’t give up do you yingyang.
Bakhmut is a stalemate for Russia they could t take on damn city in five weeks.
That is not winning, it’s treading water.
What happens to their 2nd or 3rd rumored mobilizations.
They do t even seem to possess their actual historic artillery bombardment capabilities anymore.
At best it’s a stalemate right now and they don’t have much of a bench left to pull from.
Stalemate is clear underestimation . 70% controlled by Russian forces. As for rumours your probably correct. But those rumours were from what source?🤔🤭 As for time frames and next offensive well obviously unseasonal conditions are a good call and common sense. Time will prove me correct . I don't believe the propaganda which is your reasons for such reactions.
 
Oh lord you just don’t give up do you yingyang.
Bakhmut is a stalemate for Russia they could t take on damn city in five weeks.
That is not winning, it’s treading water.
What happens to their 2nd or 3rd rumored mobilizations.
They dont even seem to possess their actual historic artillery bombardment capabilities anymore.
At best it’s a stalemate right now and they don’t have much of a bench left to pull from.
Edit this isn’t an attack on yingyang just two guys talking.
If I did give up would that honestly earn me more respect? And if your answer was yes than truly justify your reasoning.
 
Oh lord you just don’t give up do you yingyang.
Bakhmut is a stalemate for Russia they could t take on damn city in five weeks.
That is not winning, it’s treading water.
What happens to their 2nd or 3rd rumored mobilizations.
They dont even seem to possess their actual historic artillery bombardment capabilities anymore.
At best it’s a stalemate right now and they don’t have much of a bench left to pull from.
Edit this isn’t an attack on yingyang just two guys talking.
Appreciate the edit totally supported. 🤝👍I understand I'm a minority here but that doesn't mean and I know you haven't accused me of such . I'm simply going to say how I feel . I'm not here to cause issues, pick fights,break rules etc . My intention is offering different opinions, advice, understanding, possibilities, etc the list goes on. I know I'm limited with lack of digital experience but in past have found ways around it for support from others here generally coming from both minority and majority members beliefs. At the end of the day we can all get along while still not understanding each other's thought processes. The point is some even minority understand each others opinions and or may feel similar. Minority still needs respect if not disrespectful. As a minority alot who a part of are less likely to say much because they feel and know they are minority. Well I never suffered that and won't. As long as I feel I'm doing it for good reasons which I truly believe and trust in myself , than each to their own if not interested. Not suggesting for you personally seriously but remember the option to see the member name and choose to read or scroll past due to personal classification. I think debate in a civil manner is immensely important, as it creates even in small doses a change in thinking and possibilities for open mind even on other subjects in the future for different topics. Anyway thanks seriously. 😉🤝👍✊👊😅😅😅
 
I understand from admin concerns on rare occasions for their reactions. But seriously if emotional responses without name calling, foul language or abuse isn't obvious than ?🤷🏻‍♂️ Tone reveals alot of which text is difficult to clarify.
Couple of times locked like I said understand concern but hasn't happened yet as far as I know.? Anyway team your still doing a great job . 😅😅😅🤝👍 I learn alot here. Appreciate your work, time ,efforts and your calls on ladder levels.
 
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Appreciate the edit totally supported. 🤝👍I understand I'm a minority here but that doesn't mean and I know you haven't accused me of such . I'm simply going to say how I feel . I'm not here to cause issues, pick fights,break rules etc . My intention is offering different opinions, advice, understanding, possibilities, etc the list goes on. I know I'm limited with lack of digital experience but in past have found ways around it for support from others here generally coming from both minority and majority members beliefs. At the end of the day we can all get along while still not understanding each other's thought processes. The point is some even minority understand each others opinions and or may feel similar. Minority still needs respect if not disrespectful. As a minority alot who a part of are less likely to say much because they feel and know they are minority. Well I never suffered that and won't. As long as I feel I'm doing it for good reasons which I truly believe and trust in myself , than each to their own if not interested. Not suggesting for you personally seriously but remember the option to see the member name and choose to read or scroll past due to personal classification. I think debate in a civil manner is immensely important, as it creates even in small doses a change in thinking and possibilities for open mind even on other subjects in the future for different topics. Anyway thanks seriously. 😉🤝👍✊👊😅😅😅
I’ve made a judgement call that supporting Ukraine is worth it and potentially doable.
Their are no guarantees.
You disagree clearly, you don’t view it as a risk worth making.
That’s fine. I hope I’m correct because we’re in it now anyway.

I didn’t support what we did in Libya or Syria not because they were governed necessarily well or advantageously. I didn’t support it because I didn’t perceive a good outcome in doing so.

We can argue military and financial realities. But in the end we all make a judgement calls on the risk/loss analysis.
 
I’ve made a judgement call that supporting Ukraine is worth it and potentially doable.
Their are no guarantees.
You disagree clearly, you don’t view it as a risk worth making.
That’s fine. I hope I’m correct because we’re in it now anyway.

I didn’t support what we did in Libya or Syria not because they were governed necessarily well or advantageously. I didn’t support it because I didn’t perceive a good outcome in doing so.

We can argue military and financial realities. But in the end we all make a judgement calls on the risk/loss analysis.
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Lets hope the Ukrainians can handle this ASAP. Adviivka is very important, if they loose, they are at risk for an encirclement .
Not to mention all of the well dug trench lines they've been digging since 2014. That's why they've been able to stalemate so many russians there with much less men. They need those Bradley's rolling out ASAP.
 
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The thing people don't quite get is the Russian's fight in a completely different way and mentality to us westerners. Huge horde armies with high casualties has been their modus operandi for all of recent history. While some may laugh at complete companies being wiped out in the span of days those all fail to realize that in say ww2 they were losing upwards of 1 - 3 million in major battles whether captured or killed. About 5 k a day dead in actual combat. And that was all with a smaller population than thy have now. Other countries taking these kind of loses can not stomach it and would throw in the towel long before. Estimates put the required efficiency of 1 dead Ukrainian to 10 dead Russian for them to have fighting chance in the long war. At best right now its somewhere between 1 Ukr to 1.6 - 2 Rus. Not today but eventually Ukr will simply run out of man power. Especially since a whole bunch of them jumped ship at the start of this. Truthfully if the Ukr population truly hated Rus we'd see more widespread partisan and resistance fighters which so far I personally have heard and seen very little of, personally I believe it is not widespread nor effective at least where Rus control is currently.
 
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