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Seriously said:
Russia launches a new cutting edge cruise missile and it still is not overwhelmingly successful in defeating constantly improved upon older US systems.
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The Kinzhal is not a cruise missile; it's an air-launched ballistic missile. It's also not new - in the same way PAC-3 is not new; it's basically a modified version of the Iskander. Whether it's "cutting edge" is up for debate.
 
Socom7 said:
The Kinzhal is not a cruise missile; it's an air-launched ballistic missile. It's also not new - in the same way PAC-3 is not new; it's basically a modified version of the Iskander. Whether it's "cutting edge" is up for debate.
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Fair enough
 
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Seven Tu-95's are currently southbound from their base in the Murmansk Oblast in Russia and are believed to be headed towards their launch positions in the Caspian área.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1657470482575130624
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Air raid alert throughout Ukraine. Looks more like a Kinzhal alert - these hit the entire country all at once, whereas for cruise missiles they prefer to announce their alerts in stages, depending on where the missiles are coming from.

Besides, it's too early for an alert that would be related to the Tus currently enroute to the Caspian. Could be an eventful night.
 
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Can anyone explain why they would fly from Murmansk to the Caspian Sea to launch. Why not simply turn and launch when parallel to Ukraine
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That's actually a good question. Murmansk is probably out of claimed Raduga range of most targets in UA, but they definitely don't need to fly all the way to the Caspian to launch. My best guess is that this launch zone minimizes the risk of any missiles straying into NATO airspace (if they were to launch from Murmansk, the missiles would have to skim the Finnish border, and then "graze" the Baltic states.
 
Socom7 said:
That's actually a good question. Murmansk is probably out of claimed Raduga range of most targets in UA, but they definitely don't need to fly all the way to the Caspian to launch. My best guess is that this launch zone minimizes the risk of any missiles straying into NATO airspace (if they were to launch from Murmansk, the missiles would have to skim the Finnish border, and then "graze" the Baltic states.
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I was wondering if Belarus was not fond of them overflying their airspace as well.

Could also have to do with them launching and approaching in a observable dead spot for nato.
 
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I was wondering if Belarus was not fond of them overflying their airspace as well.
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Russians have been launching missiles from Belarussian territory since day 1 of the war, so no, such overflights would not be regarded as escalatory right now. Besides, I don't think the Belarussian leadership is in a position to protest; for all intents and purposes the Belarussian army should now be regarded as Russia's "Belarussian Military District".
 
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