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Okay, we all know that Ukraine joining the EU is not the same as Ukraine joining NATO; but will Russia really make a distinction? The European Union's Mutual Defense Pact specifically states that all member nations must come to the defense of another member nation who is attacked by a a hostile country. If Ukraine is admitted to the EU, that would immediately involve all of Europe in the Ukrainian War, which by default, almost guarantees involvement of NATO countries.
I don’t see a distinction, and not just because of any defense pact.

Putin is realistically more scared of westernization creeping further east than any military adventurism.
 
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URGENT | Trump denies the WSJ report that his administration lifted limits on Ukraine using allied long-range missiles for strikes inside Russia, calling it “FAKE NEWS” and saying the U.S. has “nothing to do with those missiles.”

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See, this is where I worry in situations like this, one person saying one thing despite the other being true; the “fog of war” so to speak. Did Trump really not approve Ukrainian strikes into Russian territory and is this a mistake on the WSJ’s part? Or is he trying to distance himself from the fact he *did*? Either way, what calculus would this have on the war considering Storm Shadows have been used before (seemingly without issue?)
 
Did Trump really not approve Ukrainian strikes into Russian territory and is this a mistake on the WSJ’s part? Or is he trying to distance himself from the fact he *did*?
Normally I'd say it was a distancing, but Trump is more blunt. I think if he did authorise it, he'd say it.
 
Ah ha! Found a crumb of context:


“Putin mentioned the nuclear topic to me in his call, where we are pursuing "de-escalation." I'm not against it. I think it's good. I think it's very appropriate”

- said the American leader.
 
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Russia says it has successfully tested the 9M730 Burevestnik, a nuclear powered cruise missile that can carry a nuclear warhead. Moscow claims the missile flew about 14,000 km in roughly 15 hours and that military infrastructure is now being prepared to field it. This is messaged as an answer to NATO air and missile defenses.

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This is unacceptable. The US played around with this technology clear back in the 1950s and abandoned it due to the inherent radiation dangers it presented.
 
This is unacceptable. The US played around with this technology clear back in the 1950s and abandoned it due to the inherent radiation dangers it presented.
Well this is what SDI tech gets us. Worse/better tech to kill each other to beat counter measures.

Russia only building this to beat NATO air defense and interceptors capable of shooting down nuclear missiles.

You change MAD and this is what you get. Ridiculous weapons to beat counter measures of your enemy.
 
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The Kremlin said Russia will respond harshly if Ukraine hits deep inside Russian territory with long range missiles. Again.

Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said today that Ukraine can't make those missiles itself, saying "they may be British, German, Italian... the main components are purely European imports."

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Isn’t Ukraine effectively doing this daily? I mean they’ve hit them with ATACMs and storm shadows dozens of times and they hit them with attack drones deep inside Russia basically every day.
 
Isn’t Ukraine effectively doing this daily? I mean they’ve hit them with ATACMs and storm shadows dozens of times and they hit them with attack drones deep inside Russia basically every day.
Yea just empty words. Still, always good to see what the Russians are saying. It's when they stop talking I get worried.
 
Unless Russia came up with some new reactor to propulsion design other than a heated gas RAM jet design. The missile is going to leave a radioactive exhaust trail of super heated gasses. While it’s purported low flying capabilities might fool radar. I would think satellites would track a radioactive exhaust plume fairly easily.
It’s not supersonic and it would be damn expensive to build and maintain.
 
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Analysts warn Europe is still not coordinated or ready if Russia pushes conflict into the Baltic and North Seas. The conversation in EU/NATO circles is shifting from "if" to "when," which is driving pressure for more money, more surveillance, and more North Sea/Baltic hardening.

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Analysts warn Europe is still not coordinated or ready if Russia pushes conflict into the Baltic and North Seas. The conversation in EU/NATO circles is shifting from "if" to "when," which is driving pressure for more money, more surveillance, and more North Sea/Baltic hardening.

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This entire article is an opinion piece. Not one place on it does it mention the change from if to when, it also completely falsely categorizes interceptions of Russian planes near an airspace as “reserved for times of emergency” when they’ve been doing it for the better part of 80 years.
I don’t disagree with posting analysis articles but shouldn’t they be posted in the discussion section rather than reports?
 
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