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Oh wow just accept the obvious. You know how it ends. And the blame game and finger pointing will avoid nothing. I believe some here are just in total detachment to the obvious which is why they feel like everything has to be analysed to find denial or justification that works for them.
Summary. Russia, Russian people and Putin know their future. Full stop. No discussion no finger pointing.
The west know their plans for Russia. Full stop. Etc etc.
Both sides have known this for a long time. Both sides know how this ends. Meanwhile in la la land some waste their time with analyses to suit their opinions. Eg. Who is justified?, who started it? etc etc. Meanwhile some knowing the answers ,yet lack of acknowledgement. In the end non of this changes the outcomes. This is the worlds first major event meaning a war current to crisis, no comparison to Cuba,with such escalation heading towards ww3. And the first world war with nuclear weapons available for both sides. Humanity has one chance not to depopulate on a major scale. History shows we are not capable of global peace and prosperity. Luck may have pose poned the enevitable. But luck wouldn't exist if it was a unlimited given. In all honesty people do you really believe that crushing Russia will stop them .🤞 🙄🤣😂🤣. Putin deliberately made this scenario as a last ditch effort for change. Without his move Russia was doomed. With his move he thought he could change things. He was wrong. And he will make us all aware of this. Don't fool yourself thinking the west will be victorious . We all suffer we are all to blame. Accept it. Suck it up. In the end if you die with a misconception or the truth your still dead. Shit we need a weather thread 🤣😂🤣.
 
DarkNoon said:
I just listened to the whole breifing. He did kinda imply it. HE SAID "currently there are no US troops." The word currently implies the possibility later.
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I have not seen the whole briefing. But from the clip, it was clear he was referencing troops in NATO countries. I'd be interested in seeing the part were he is talking about troops in Ukraine. Do you have a link?
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
I have not seen the whole briefing. But from the clip, it was clear he was referencing troops in NATO countries. I'd be interested in seeing the part were he is talking about troops in Ukraine. Do you have a link?
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Yes after he was done giving his breifing a reporter asked about US troops in Ukraine.

He said "currently there are no US troops." The word currently implies there might be later.

 
DarkNoon said:
Unfortunately I did not mark it down. But you can skip his breifing and go right to reporters questions. That will shave a lot of time.
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At 10:15 he says the US does not have troops "currently training Ukrainians. We do not have troops on the territory of Ukraine".

Was that what you were referring to?
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
At 10:15 he says the US does not have troops "currently training Ukrainians. We do not have troops on the territory of Ukraine".

Was that what you were referring to?
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Yep that is what I was referring too. The word currently implies could be later. Training or not that's still US boots possibly being considered.
 
DarkNoon said:
Yep that is what I was referring too. The word currently implies could be later. Training or not that's still US boots possibly being considered.
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Yeah, but he was talking about training Ukraine troops, not sending troops to Ukraine.
 
Yingyang said:
This could also mean in the future the US could train Ukraine soldiers such as refugees in a nato country preparing them for return?
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Well I suspect that is already happening in Poland US Blackhawks and Chinooks are flying around eastern Poland landing in remote areas. As well as their transponders coming on in equally remote areas.
I’d posted earlier I Would not be surprised if US and British SF are in country doing training there as well.
What Jack Sullivan is lying?
Yes and quite honestly I would expect it.
It’s a war the public can not be told everything simply because you can’t tell the opposition. And those two things can not be separated.
 
Yingyang said:
This could also mean in the future the US could train Ukraine soldiers such as refugees in a nato country preparing them for return?
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The U.S. has been pretty adamant about not sending troops to Ukraine. There has been no sign of change on their part.

If troops are indeed going in, the U.S. is going to allow Poland to do it.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
If troops are indeed going in, the U.S. is going to allow Poland to do it.
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The US already gave the green light for Poland or any NATO nation to send troops in...

US Ambassador:
And other NATO countries may decide that they want to put troops inside of Ukraine. That will be a decision that they have to make.
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Yingyang said:
Oh wow just accept the obvious. You know how it ends. And the blame game and finger pointing will avoid nothing. I believe some here are just in total detachment to the obvious which is why they feel like everything has to be analysed to find denial or justification that works for them.
Summary. Russia, Russian people and Putin know their future. Full stop. No discussion no finger pointing.
The west know their plans for Russia. Full stop. Etc etc.
Both sides have known this for a long time. Both sides know how this ends. Meanwhile in la la land some waste their time with analyses to suit their opinions. Eg. Who is justified?, who started it? etc etc. Meanwhile some knowing the answers ,yet lack of acknowledgement. In the end non of this changes the outcomes. This is the worlds first major event meaning a war current to crisis, no comparison to Cuba,with such escalation heading towards ww3. And the first world war with nuclear weapons available for both sides. Humanity has one chance not to depopulate on a major scale. History shows we are not capable of global peace and prosperity. Luck may have pose poned the enevitable. But luck wouldn't exist if it was a unlimited given. In all honesty people do you really believe that crushing Russia will stop them .🤞 🙄🤣😂🤣. Putin deliberately made this scenario as a last ditch effort for change. Without his move Russia was doomed. With his move he thought he could change things. He was wrong. And he will make us all aware of this. Don't fool yourself thinking the west will be victorious . We all suffer we are all to blame. Accept it. Suck it up. In the end if you die with a misconception or the truth your still dead. Shit we need a weather thread 🤣😂🤣.
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You Summarized it pretty well except I don’t see Russia and the Russian people going anywhere. If Russia loses it is not the end of Russia but likely the end of current Russian leadership.

Where your right is Putin made a mistake, he judged wrong on the resistance and the response.
There was no last ditch effort to make their point or change minds.
Every nation exist in the closed environment of earth. They all have to exist and interact with each other in a constructive way or their is conflict.
Choosing a course of action like invading Ukraine and then being confronted with almost universal condemnation and material response from most of the nations out their.
Being in that position you might think that maybe our world view and expectations are out of step with most everyone else.
The US is frequently charged to self evaluate out mistakes as we should be.
Why should Russia not be expected to self-evaluate their mistakes and expectations
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
The U.S. has been pretty adamant about not sending troops to Ukraine. There has been no sign of change on their part.

If troops are indeed going in, the U.S. is going to allow Poland to do it.
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As in polish boots on ground in Ukraine? Or like I thought training in Poland of Ukraine soldiers. Because allowing Polish soldiers in Ukraine will end with same outcome as any other nato soldiers in UKRAINE.
 
Obreid said:
You Summarized it pretty well except I don’t see Russia and the Russian people going anywhere. If Russia loses it is not the end of Russia but likely the end of current Russian leadership.

Where your right is Putin made a mistake, he judged wrong on the resistance and the response.
There was no last ditch effort to make their point or change minds.
Every nation exist in the closed environment of earth. They all have to exist and interact with each other in a constructive way or their is conflict.
Choosing a course of action like invading Ukraine and then being confronted with almost universal condemnation and material response from most of the nations out their.
Being in that position you might think that maybe our world view and expectations are out of step with most everyone else.
The US is frequently charged to self evaluate out mistakes as we should be.
Why should Russia not be expected to self-evaluate their mistakes and expectations
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So how do you see this ending?
Because Russia know they are doomed either way. Please no 🤞response such as Putin being assassinated or removed from power.
 
Yingyang said:
Do

Can you show confirmation of that. And if so who and when?
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The DWS director said and reported it himself that US is opening door to NATO nations putting troops into Ukraine:
DEFCON Warning System said:
US Ambassador:
And other NATO countries may decide that they want to put troops inside of Ukraine. That will be a decision that they have to make.
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thehill.com

Top diplomat rules out US role in Ukraine peacekeeping mission

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield on Sunday ruled out the possibility of the U.S. taking part in peacekeeping operations inside Ukraine, reiterating that the Biden admin…
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