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DEFCON Warning System said:
Putin isn't being arrested. He will either survive this or be deposed by his own people. But he isn't appearing before any Court. There will be no 21st century Nuremberg Trial.
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I just hope Putin doesn't have a "Sampson Option" that he's going to implement if he's threatened with losing power...
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
I truly don't know much about Ukraine's government. I compare this to Kuwait. Their government doesn't matter. They shouldn't have been invaded.
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For me it’s the same as Putin and Russia if that is the gov they want them fine. It’s no one’s business but theirs. Even after Ukraine issues is settled.
But like Kuwait attacking another without just cause is another.
I still believe we were wrong in Syria and possible even Libya. That doesn’t mean we can or should ignore this.
I am not my government!
 
Thanks
It does your head in when you think about what the global fallout from this situation can be
Glad you are here to keep us informed
Cheers
Here's to a good year next year
 
Bob 2 pm said:
1 sanctions are on Russia now yet come the end of the conflict
Would western business scramble to grab cheap business from Russia or would the sanctions last for decades
I surely doubt that the West would ignore cheap materials from Russia after the conflict.
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I see no plan or practical situation where Russia collapses from this. No one is going to invade Russia’s.
So sanctions a f business relations would have to be renegotiated with who ever is left standing there. So that’s all an unknown.
Safe to say that unless there is a radical change in leadership Europe will be very hesitant to return to anything remotely similar in energy imports like it was before
 
It wouldn't surprise me if Russia has a doomsday weapon, but it fails because the whole process was plagued by corruption and yes men.
 
Samson dislodges the pillars out from under the temple and the temple collapses killing everyone including Sampson.
 
This is slightly off topic - but is there anything to the reports that Chinese troops are flooding into Serbia, and the 3 Chinese military aircraft flying into Europe? If so, what could this mean, and is there enough on this to start a thread?
 
Spyglass said:
This is slightly off topic - but is there anything to the reports that Chinese troops are flooding into Serbia, and the 3 Chinese military aircraft flying into Europe? If so, what could this mean, and is there enough on this to start a thread?
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China is in Serbia commemorating the accidental bombing of the Chinese embassy during the war. I can only suspect that this is what this is about.
One person was claiming there are Chinese troops but nothing to support.
 
Obreid said:
China is in Serbia commemorating the accidental bombing of the Chinese embassy during the war. I can only suspect that this is what this is about.
One person was claiming there are Chinese troops but nothing to support.
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That would be a heck of a cover story, but if it were, there would be more we would be hearing. Thanks for the explanation.
 
Travis The Dragon said:
What is a "Sampson Option"?
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Israeli nuclear policy. Unlike the US and Russia, their focus is on conventional superiority and their nuclear weapons are only to be used as a last resort if they are faced with losing the country to an enemy attack. Since Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, they don't threaten their use like Russia, China, and the US have recently. But it's the worst kept secret in the history of nuclear warfare, and the Sampson Option is the launch of every nuclear weapon in their arsenal if Israel is facing imminent destruction, potentially sparking off a regional nuclear exchange.
 
Thanks to mistake made by an SBU, foreign journalists has managed to get a footage on remnants of Tochka-U in Kramatorsk, and catch a serial number.
Which is - Ш91579
Before that, there has been identification put on Ш91565, Ш91566 missiles also used by Ukraine forces. Difference of 14 munitions in numbers.
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Not suprising, hype on war is getting quiet, they can't allow that. More sacrifices to fuel this war.
You blamed Zelesnky for not properly reacting to possible Russian invasion beforehand, calming everyone down and saying "nothing will happen", but it's actually far more profitable for you, as he did the right thing - he did it so people won't panic and won't flee from their homes to the West of Dnepr river. So they stay and either become forcefully recruited into militia, or used as a meatshield in combat against Russian forces.

It should be taken into account that the population of Donbass, including Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, is considered by the current regime of Ukraine as disloyal. in Ukraine, the inhabitants of Donbass, including this city, are even deprived of voting rights. They may easily be sacrificed to create another media outrage.

But all lies are eventually uncovered, we'll catch them all and make new Nurnberg Trial for them.
The world needs another reminder about what end awaits the Nazi scum.
 
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Citizen-21 said:
Thanks to mistake made by an SBU, foreign journalists has managed to get a footage on remnants of Tochka-U in Kramatorsk, and catch a serial number.
Which is - Ш91578
Before that, there has been identification put on Ш91565, Ш91566 missiles also used by Ukraine forces. Difference of 13 munitions in numbers.

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Not suprising, hype on war is getting quiet, they can't allow that. More sacrifices to fuel this war.
You blamed Zelesnky for not properly reacting to possible Russian invasion beforehand, calming everyone down and saying "nothing will happen", but it's actually far more profitable for you, as he did the right thing - he did it so people won't panic and won't flee from their homes to the West of Dnepr river. So they stay and either become forcefully recruited into militia, or used as a meatshield in combat against Russian forces.

It should be taken into account that the population of Donbass, including Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, is considered by the current regime of Ukraine as disloyal. in Ukraine, the inhabitants of Donbass, including this city, are even deprived of voting rights. They may easily be sacrificed to create another media outrage.

But all lies are eventually uncovered, we'll catch them all and make new Nurnberg Trial for them.
The world needs another reminder about what end awaits the Nazi scum.
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Do you have something but an unidentified photo.
 
Your really dialing up the Russian rhetoric yourself.
Citizen-21 said:
But all lies are eventually uncovered, we'll catch them all and make new Nurnberg Trial for them.
The world needs another reminder about what end awaits the Nazi scum.
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How soon should we expect a statement on the Baltic states and Finland being fascist nazi
 
Citizen-21 said:
Thanks to mistake made by an SBU, foreign journalists has managed to get a footage on remnants of Tochka-U in Kramatorsk, and catch a serial number.
Which is - Ш91578
Before that, there has been identification put on Ш91565, Ш91566 missiles also used by Ukraine forces. Difference of 13 munitions in numbers.
View attachment 1962

Not suprising, hype on war is getting quiet, they can't allow that. More sacrifices to fuel this war.
You blamed Zelesnky for not properly reacting to possible Russian invasion beforehand, calming everyone down and saying "nothing will happen", but it's actually far more profitable for you, as he did the right thing - he did it so people won't panic and won't flee from their homes to the West of Dnepr river. So they stay and either become forcefully recruited into militia, or used as a meatshield in combat against Russian forces.

It should be taken into account that the population of Donbass, including Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, is considered by the current regime of Ukraine as disloyal. in Ukraine, the inhabitants of Donbass, including this city, are even deprived of voting rights. They may easily be sacrificed to create another media outrage.

But all lies are eventually uncovered, we'll catch them all and make new Nurnberg Trial for them.
The world needs another reminder about what end awaits the Nazi scum.
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Well, it has been confirmed by reliable sources that the missile that hit the train station in Kramatorsk was indeed a Tochka-U, but Belarus also uses these missiles, and Russia certainly has access to them.

I'm willing to consider that Ukraine fired this missile on its own people to drive support for the war, but I'm going to need more evidence than what you've provided. You posted a photo from a video, not the entire video itself.

We live in a world of unparalleled disinformation. That missile could have been fired by Ukraine, Belarus, or Russia, and your single photo does not provide proof in any direction. Can you post the entire video for analysis, please?
 
RiffRaff said:
This has already happened with Latvia.
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I'm surprised Putin hasn't focused on justifying against Lithuania instead, I would've thought he'd prefer a land bridge between Kaliningrad and Belarus rather than Latvia.

I think we should watch carefully what he says about the other Baltic states.
 
Friendly Engineer said:
I'm surprised Putin hasn't focused on justifying against Lithuania instead, I would've thought he'd prefer a land bridge between Kaliningrad and Belarus rather than Latvia.

I think we should watch carefully what he says about the other Baltic states.
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I posted a link while back and can’t remember when. The US moved a squadron of Apache’s to Lithuanian about two weeks ago.
Also there is this marine brigade combat and control unit is already deployed to Lithuania. Along with a squadron of F-16 along with air tankers.
Their has been no nato transponder activity over the Baltic’s the whole time except the Beechcraft Huron signet planes that have been flying T pattern over Lithuanian.
I get the feeling nato has been flying missions their the whole time transponders off. That is only speculation thou.
Germany has sent some lethal aid there as well.
There was a Twitter post I say last night but can’t find now claiming Belgium was also sending fighter planes as well.

Marine Corps units repositioned to Eastern Europe to Support NATO

In coordination with U.S. European Command, U.S Embassy in Lithuania, and U.S. Embassy in Poland, and in direct support to U.S. Air Forces Europe, U.S. Marines from 2d Marine Aircraft Wing, II Marine
www.usafe.af.mil
 
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