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Is this the same area that’s had a US helicopter circling the last week?
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It's true. A few month ago my car was stolen. But until that moment, we can say that my car was opened 99999/100000 by me. Who have to know, he actually knows, but no option can be excluded. But it could be not so important to know the real guilty: it is a very excalating move. It's enough.
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I'm still waiting for Russias official explanation. Once they speak, we'll know it's the opposite of whatever they say.
I still think it's Russia though. Sending a message. Today the "Baltic Pipe" between Denmark and Poland, which delivers Norwegian Natural Gas has entered service. My guess: Assuming Russia did actually, directly or indirectly, blow up NS1+2, it could be a signal from them that other pipes could suffer from "accidents" as well. However, I think as NS1 was essentially shut down end of August and NS2 never entered service in the first place, today's incident won't be considered an attack. but to any other in-service pipe, it sure will.
I still think it's Russia though. Sending a message. Today the "Baltic Pipe" between Denmark and Poland, which delivers Norwegian Natural Gas has entered service. My guess: Assuming Russia did actually, directly or indirectly, blow up NS1+2, it could be a signal from them that other pipes could suffer from "accidents" as well. However, I think as NS1 was essentially shut down end of August and NS2 never entered service in the first place, today's incident won't be considered an attack. but to any other in-service pipe, it sure will.
Well this incident has generously helped my US energy investments. But just because this benefits the US does not mean we did it.
Not saying this because I'm America but on a purely logical level IF THIS WAS sabotage then it would of been Russia. As winter is nearing and best way to make EU suffer would to do exactly this.
But realistically this was likly a accidental disaster.
Good find!
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Not quite. The pipeline damage occurred 300 km to the west of this flight path. Still, I do recall seeing this piece of information and thinking it's somewhat unusual (NATO flies regular patrols over the Baltic and around Kaliningrad using all kinds of sigint a/c, but it's the first I've heard of a chopper being used).
Well helicopters can be a lot closer to the waters surface then a jet. Makes sense if they need extreme detail only capable of being quite literally directly over the waters surface.
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Sikorski is, generally speaking, a sane and clear-eyed guy (he's also the husband of Anne Applebaum - a name that probably rings a bell to some), but this is uncharacteristically frivolous of him.
Clearly someone sent someone a message here, but the list of possible someones is quite long, so I wouldn't be jumping to conclusions if I were him.
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It just gets curiouser and curioser
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...and Zakharova has already picked up on this.
Honestly, this is the kind of post that slips from your fingers when you've had one too many...
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Thank you for the clarification!
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Except the pipeline was already practically shut down. And Russia has no problem turning off its taps. Why would they destroy what could still be used in the future?Well this incident has generously helped my US energy investments. But just because this benefits the US does not mean we did it.
Not saying this because I'm America but on a purely logical level IF THIS WAS sabotage then it would of been Russia. As winter is nearing and best way to make EU suffer would to do exactly this.
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Let's say the US wanted to blow it up with a helicopter:
why would they leave the transponder on so it can be tracked by people on the internet?
I don't think you understood my several recent posts. I said the US didn't do it. I said that in regards to detection tech. May work better closer to water surface. Why helicopters would be used for detail tracking vs jets which cannot be that close to the surface of water.
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chopper dropping sonar buoys as they had detected something? A Russian submersible?
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On to something with that thought perhaps.
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@DarkNoon I honestly think we did it.
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I certainly don't believe the Russians did it.
But it doesn't make sense that the U.S. did it either. All this does it push Europe into capitulating even sooner than they would have before.
Not going to bother as I don't have a tinfoil hat on nor do I digest Russian propaganda from letting them shit in my mouth.Well this incident has generously helped my US energy investments. But just because this benefits the US does not mean we did it.
Not saying this because I'm America but on a purely logical level IF THIS WAS sabotage then it would of been Russia. As winter is nearing and best way to make EU suffer would to do exactly this.
But realistically this was likly a accidental disaster.
Already laid out why it was clearly not us. Very certain it was a accident or disaster.
The West is dumb to blame Russia & Russia is dumb to blame US. Anyone believe this was intentional needs to seriously re-contemplate where they get their news.
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