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When China acts, something like the Cylon war from Battlestar Gallactica (2004 version) comes to mind...
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Crackdown On Secret Illegal Chinese Police Stations Within US
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Remember the posts where the security forces have the right to take your phone and examine what apps you have on it. I was also advised that it is illegal to have a phone locked as the security forces must have free and unimpeded access to your phone for inspection.
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Great assessment. True, the CCP thinks very long term. They are the Middle Kingdom, therefore what they say and think matters and they have the will to execute power. However, under Xi’s chairmanship, they’ve started to slide.
Their belief is that the West is weak and that we do not have the will or capacity to push back.
No they don't. Their own policies have doomed them in the "long term"...
That is a false percieved notion through heavily & calculated pushed propaganda by CCP to at least put an "charade" over having any kind of competence. Rather they are just a large pyramid scheme with corruption beyond anything the Soviets could of ever pulled off.
Look no further then their ever growing catastrophic emergency in population decline like no other nation is facing. Caused by their own short sighted policies. Just one of thousands of examples CCP far from "long term" planners or brilliant thinkers.
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There are probably many examples of a long-term plan that did not pan out (e.g. - The Great Leap Forward). I think the point is is that they make long term plans. Not all succeed.
From my view, historically, communist countries are committed to ideology in such a way that it blinds them to reality. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
That is a better way to put it. But in the end what your saying is the same thing I said. They are terrible long term thinkers or strategist and there is a lot of evidence to prove it. Best prime example is their very alarming catastrophic population decline that was entirly brought on by their own policies.There are probably many examples of a long-term plan that did not pan out (e.g. - The Great Leap Forward). I think the point is is that they make long term plans. Not all succeed.
From my view, historically, communist countries are committed to ideology in such a way that it blinds them to reality. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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That’s the funny thing about it,DN. Their Middle Kingdom mentality and their arrogance is an absolute cognitive disconnect. Their country is imploding, they have a major set of population problems and the world can see through their mask.....but it’s total denial on their end.
Countries and companies are getting out of Beijing like crazy.
My first statement was sarcasm about their thinking.
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Sink the CCP, encourage or make expensive for western population to buy their product but not by raising tarrifs. Allow free trade but make it so no one wnats to buy their products. They love disinformation so lets use their own tricks and policies against them. e.g their food stuffs are contaminated so eat at own risk, if you get sick you might not be able to afford medical care. Their IT gear and phones can be remotely turned off so they could suddenly stop working if they trigger a kill switch( this is same for their cars), they have backdoors to get access to your information and rob you blind. Use disinformation and half truths to destroy confidence in Chinese goods and encourage people not to buy them even if available. One way to cripple the CCP economy further. Put pressure on foreign companies that if they have any factories in china, any at all, then they cannot compete for any US government contract at any level and make that a law. Then put banking restrictions on their cash assets.That’s the funny thing about it,DN. Their Middle Kingdom mentality and their arrogance is an absolute cognitive disconnect. Their country is imploding, they have a major set of population problems and the world can see through their mask.....but it’s total denial on their end.
Countries and companies are getting out of Beijing like crazy.
My first statement was sarcasm about their thinking.
This is already happening in America. Everything you said is public information that everyone has heard or read about in the states and there is very wide public stigma in America to not buy Chinese products because their inferior or other problems like you listed above.
It is working too. Just this year trade with China is dropping like bricks in the US. 40% to be exact.
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The reason I stressed this is depite it being true far too many just are not aware of it. Needs more public knowledge and for such issues to be raised in the media world to encourage education. I already will not buy chinese products if I can avoid it.
It is working too. Just this year trade with China is dropping like bricks in the US. 40% to be exact.
China Jan-Feb trade slumps again as global demand falters:
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China Jan-Feb trade slumps again as global demand falters
China's exports for the January-February period fell, pointing to continued weakness in foreign demand and backing government concerns that a global slowdown will hamper the country's recovery from pandemic-era damage.
www.reuters.com
Manufacturing orders from China down 40% in demand collapse:
U.S. manufacturing orders from China down 40% in unrelenting demand collapse
Manufacturing orders from China and trade bound for the U.S. have plunged as a demand collapse is expected to continue into 2023, according to global shippers.
Maybe in Australia or other western nations. But in America... it is widly know and has been public information or dinner table chit chat for a decades now in the US in regards to stigma to Chinese made products.
Can't tell you how long Americans favorite joke when ANYTHING breaks is "f*** that cheap Chinese crap" or "must of been made in China" whenever anything breaks. Most common joke there is in America...
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Do you think that some of that drop could be attributed to the bad economy and not just people avoiding China?Just this year trade with China is dropping like bricks in the US. 40% to be exact.
We have seen just the past few years unprecedented bounce back/growth from the pandemic woes globally spurring unparalleled demand in products. Why we saw supply chain shortages.
Demand for manufactured products is still high. People are just getting it from else where. Even Apple is trying to jump ship from China moving its manufacturing complexes to India!
Nations and private companies are finaly getting wise and realizing there is plenty of cheap labor markets out there besides China and do not want to give China that kinda power over them.
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China’s economy is just starting to spiral downward. CCP is experiencing the start of their collapse. The Chinese people are going to pay the price for it, unfortunately.
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You're most likely correct, but as the spiral grows will it be contained to China? Thats the problem I feel.
I'd like to say... mmmmm no.
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I feel that it will become a global issue, sorry to say. Companies moving business elsewhere might mitigate it somewhat, but it will still be felt everywhere.
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Is a joke with some in Australia but there are others who don't know.... Or don't care