UA-RU-NATO | DISCUSSIONS

uamcplyr · May 30, 2023

OReid said:
Well it sure doesn’t sound like Russian air defenses are very good.

For sure

OReid said:
The one with canard wings was making enough noise to be heard from inside.
Again I could be all wet on this but I seriously doubt these drones were launched from anywhere but inside Russia.
If anyone who might have some expertise in this please chime in if I’m incorrect.

I can see multiple scenarios, the one you outline being one.

The number of drones being reported is curious to me as well. Initial report of 10, revised down to 8 officially and 30 plus unoficially according to one source:

Large-scale drone attack hits Moscow for first time in Ukraine war

Rare strike on Russian capital unnerves Muscovites who had been told conflict would not threaten them

www.theguardian.com

The Russian defence ministry said eight drones targeted the city overnight but Russian media close to the security services wrote that the number was many times higher, with more than 30 drones participating in the attack.

BorisBadenov · May 30, 2023

uamcplyr said:
For sure

I can see multiple scenarios, the one you outline being one.

The number of drones being reported is curious to me as well. Initial report of 10, revised down to 8 officially and 30 plus unoficially according to one source:

Large-scale drone attack hits Moscow for first time in Ukraine war

Rare strike on Russian capital unnerves Muscovites who had been told conflict would not threaten them

www.theguardian.com

The Russian defence ministry said eight drones targeted the city overnight but Russian media close to the security services wrote that the number was many times higher, with more than 30 drones participating in the attack.

Again, UKR is using DJI drones, maximum flight time is 20 minutes on the battery. The attacks on Moscow are from MOSCOW.

dryjoy · May 30, 2023

BorisBadenov said:
Again, UKR is using DJI drones, maximum flight time is 20 minutes on the battery. The attacks on Moscow are from MOSCOW.

That’s certainly a valid possibility, but there’s not enough information yet to state that with certainty. Ukraine has the expertise to mount a drone attack on Moscow if it wanted to.

Peter Griffin · May 30, 2023

BorisBadenov said:
Again, UKR is using DJI drones, maximum flight time is 20 minutes on the battery. The attacks on Moscow are from MOSCOW.

I would be far more suprised if they didn't have operatives in Russia that could launch these attacks. No doubt they are in contact with underground networks in Russia created by Russian partisans. I mean, where do people expect these Russians to get explosive material? You can only work with ammonium nitrate for so long before someone starts connecting the dots.

BorisBadenov · May 30, 2023

dryjoy said:
That’s certainly a valid possibility, but there’s not enough information yet to state that with certainty. Ukraine has the expertise to mount a drone attack on Moscow if it wanted to.

I could mount an offensive in Russia right now if I wanted at this rate of security. Enough $$ people will do anything.

alphaecho · May 31, 2023

Russia Braces For Attack By 50,000 Ukrainian Kamikaze Drones, Seeks Shotguns

Social media is often a good way to get an unfiltered view of what military thinkers are discussing. Posts by a blogger using the handle Russian Engineer usually get few thousand views, but one of his latest entries has now been seen 1.9 million times with a dire warning.

www.forbes.com

Publius · May 31, 2023

alphaecho said:
Russia Braces For Attack By 50,000 Ukrainian Kamikaze Drones, Seeks Shotguns

Social media is often a good way to get an unfiltered view of what military thinkers are discussing. Posts by a blogger using the handle Russian Engineer usually get few thousand views, but one of his latest entries has now been seen 1.9 million times with a dire warning.

www.forbes.com

Well that is interesting, I guess compared to the cost of most military weaponry $300-400 is a pretty cheap weapon.

There is also stand-off distance for operators.

Publius · May 31, 2023

alphaecho said:
Russia Braces For Attack By 50,000 Ukrainian Kamikaze Drones, Seeks Shotguns

Social media is often a good way to get an unfiltered view of what military thinkers are discussing. Posts by a blogger using the handle Russian Engineer usually get few thousand views, but one of his latest entries has now been seen 1.9 million times with a dire warning.

www.forbes.com

What’s also interesting in the article is this tid-bit
Recently, it has become known that, in terms of drones, buyers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have bought up almost the entire market of FPV drone components in China, according to indirect estimates, by 50-100 thousand units

Now take this type of basic operator controlled drone. And add to it AI drone swarms that communicate with each other.

Watch a swarm of drones autonomously track a human through a dense forest

The work has potential military applications, say experts

www.theverge.com

Welcome to the future.

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