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Trump's Tariff's - Updates

@Torch @OReid
I can absolutely agree that we have had higher tariffs that were borderline unfair and I can fully understand that we need to rectify those and achieve balance. The only point I would like to differ with is that when you show goodwill it's nice for that to be recognised, you know. Getting insulted even though you made sincere efforts doesn't go down well.
I know he’s abrasive and often insulting. I can give you that. I’m only saying look at the acts and results.
 
Trump: India is not only buying massive amounts of Russian Oil, they are then, for much of the Oil purchased, selling it on the Open Market for big profits. They don’t care how many people in Ukraine are being killed by the Russian War Machine. Because of this, I will be substantially raising the Tariff paid by India to the USA
 
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If I was Indian, I would buy the cheapest energy available.


US sanctions on Russian hydrocarbons was always going to fail, getting far better for Russia over time.

Only if the US and NATO were willing to intercede and destroy the transit and production abilities of the Russians would the boycott have worked over time. Of course the result WW3 would have helped.
 
I think what I sent above communicates my position well. Last year, the U.S. ambassador clarified they in fact wanted India to buy Russian oil & frankly we had no choice with the large diversion to the EU. Now, don't demonise us for doing what you told us to do. (Not aiming this at anyone here!)
 
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This goes WAY beyond as misunderstanding. The USA is seriously pissed with India. Now whether India deserves it or even cares is a different matter. Obviously we are not mad because India is doing the very thing we asked. Someone is lying. We (the public) just don’t know the real problem. I hope we work it out fast.
Well yes the US is serious, and yes India was told to do what they needed to do.
What we don’t know is what has been communicated in the last six months.

For four years the Biden admin told India to continue to buy oil from Russia.
So what, nations are forever prohibited in policy changes because past policy mistakes somehow make them sacrosanct?
“Oh! We don’t see choking off Russias export base as a viable tool to restrain their efforts to wage war.”
1st that’s stupid on us.

So that leaves us with what has been communicated to India thus far from Trump in the last six months? Have our expectations been for India to seriously look for other options? Or cut it off?

What has Indias reaction or push back to this been thus far?

What has the US done or promised to help alleviate the cost to India in this effort.

What are the actual real world expectations Trump is expecting from India in the short and longer term?

Personally I suspect it’s not some all or nothing proposition. Oil or no oil from Russia. The US in negotiations this spring have indeed flipped the tables, but they have been negotiations, not gunboat diplomacy.

Three weeks, and this will be a basically settled issue. The US won’t get India to cut all Russian oil, and India is going to have to commit to procuring less oil from Russia.
It’s a war, the decisiveness of individual battles seldom determine the outcome of the war. It’s the cumulative wins and losses that determine the victor.
 
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China Tightens Grip on Rare Earths That Only They Make, US Defense Industries Sounding Alarm as They Struggle to Find Resources to Make Fighters & More:
 
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China Tightens Grip on Rare Earths That Only They Make, US Defense Industries Sounding Alarm as They Struggle to Find Resources to Make Fighters & More:
little bit more on rare earth minerals

It’s not necessarily the access to raw materials. It’s not that China is setting on 85% of the world’s raw material deposits. Rather it is they have dominated the extraction and refinement process.

While this is a difficult situation it’s not nearly as insurmountable as access to raw materials. It’s is a cooperative and domestically fixable issue. It will require focused effort.

 
Well yes the US is serious, and yes India was told to do what they needed to do.
What we don’t know is what has been communicated in the last six months.

For four years the Biden admin told India to continue to buy oil from Russia.
So what, nations are forever prohibited in policy changes because past policy mistakes somehow make them sacrosanct?
“Oh! We don’t see choking off Russias export base as a viable tool to restrain their efforts to wage war.”
1st that’s stupid on us.

So that leaves us with what has been communicated to India thus far from Trump in the last six months? Have our expectations been for India to seriously look for other options? Or cut it off?

What has Indias reaction or push back to this been thus far?

What has the US done or promised to help alleviate the cost to India in this effort.

What are the actual real world expectations Trump is expecting from India in the short and longer term?

Personally I suspect it’s not some all or nothing proposition. Oil or no oil from Russia. The US in negotiations this spring have indeed flipped the tables, but they have been negotiations, not gunboat diplomacy.

Three weeks, and this will be a basically settled issue. The US won’t get India to cut all Russian oil, and India is going to have to commit to procuring less oil from Russia.
It’s a war, the decisiveness of individual battles seldom determine the outcome of the war. It’s the cumulative wins and losses that determine the victor.
Let's see what happens. These questions are key to understanding that.
Though I will also reiterate that it isn't easy for the world's third largest consumer of oil (we in India consume the same amount of oil as ASEAN and a little more than half of the entire European Union) to pivot completely away from Russia within months, when the previous policy was that it's okay. Sourcing such a huge amount of oil from other sources is simply not practical when the rest of the world is also diverting from Russia.

 
Let's see what happens. These questions are key to understanding that.
Though I will also reiterate that it isn't easy for the world's third largest consumer of oil (we in India consume the same amount of oil as ASEAN and a little more than half of the entire European Union) to pivot completely away from Russia within months, when the previous policy was that it's okay. Sourcing such a huge amount of oil from other sources is simply not practical when the rest of the world is also diverting from Russia.

All true, the real question that is pertinent to the cumulative issue is this. How much might Russian oil exports be limited while not damaging allies. The US and others are going to have to ramp up oil production to keep prices low.

There is another aspect to this pressure campaign beyond just Russian oil profits. It is the dispersion of pain and responsibility throughout the international community to increase diplomatic pressure on Russia to negotiate. Nations are going to have to pick a side.

If you want to put the importance of this effort into perspective. Three things can realistically happen from here.

1 Increased economic and diplomatic pressure can be leveraged against Russia to force them to negotiate in good faith. This is going to include India, sorry. And I’m not saying India needs to wreck their economy to do it either.
2. The war grinds on with all the expected destruction and cost associated with it.
3. The west slowly caves and allows Russia to take all of Ukraine.
Or
4. NATO enters the war on Ukraines behalf.

Which of these exposes the world to the greatest, or least, risk of escalation in the conflict?
I have my opinions….
 
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Let's see what happens. These questions are key to understanding that.
Though I will also reiterate that it isn't easy for the world's third largest consumer of oil (we in India consume the same amount of oil as ASEAN and a little more than half of the entire European Union) to pivot completely away from Russia within months, when the previous policy was that it's okay. Sourcing such a huge amount of oil from other sources is simply not practical when the rest of the world is also diverting from Russia.

We have most of it covered. It just economic unviable. Insert a war and production (including radioactives) will expand. We produce enough of everything (or have huge stock piles). The problems are with refining. We can do it, it’s just expensive. Japan and Malaysia make more than us and both are likely allies in a war with China.

I wish we had continued production after the Cold War but we literally had tons (many many) of most. It took 30 years and vast increases in demand to put the US were it is now.

It not something I worry about because people are smarter than me and NASA, the DOE and the DOD seemed to feel we have it covered, if we demand it. For example our reserves of radioactives go from 500 tons of uranium to 1200+ tons with a modest price increase.

Other materials, such as lithium have been found in great quantity, and in the Mojave, almost all are available.

We really need to worry about something else like maybe hypersonic missiles. Oh wait, that’s stupid too. I mean, the missiles aren’t stupid, faster always better but it’s not like they’re going relativistic and our defenses are.

I think I’m gonna worry about illegal immigration, and trade-imbalances. One is super important the other is not. Both make headlines. Both will bite us in the ass, but only in one case do I have any realistic possibility of influencing… and I already voted. So I guess I’m not worried about that either.

Damn, Fox News and MSNBC are gonna go broke. Well there is always abortion and gun control. You know, where liberals worry that people might get shot, but gleefully slaughter the unborn whilst conservatives know that some people NEED a good killing and babies never do.

(I’ll bet THAT gets a reactions) 😎
 
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