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UA-RU-NATO War | Discussions | Jun. 1st/Sep. 13th 2025

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DEFCON Warning System said:
No one. There isn't a single communist dictatorship in the world. Never has been one.
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Communism on the surface is the supposed collective ownership of major economic industries. Collective ownership of anything on a moderate timeline is a joke. Given enough time there will always be individual or small groups who garner enough power to unilaterally control everything

It’s based upon the failed idea that humans basically are good and can be trusted to universally make moral decisions. Given this communism in its truest form will never exist in human societies, never.

Communist-dictatorship is an oxymoron.
Otherwise known as a monarchy or simply a dictatorship.
 
Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam (maybe)
Belarus, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela. What am I missing. Some of the -stan’s.
(I didn’t cheat. 🛑✋ just say “I know to Google”
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
No one. There isn't a single communist dictatorship in the world. Never has been one.
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Duh, that's just No True Scotsman again. Of course there have been communist dictatorships. Plenty of them. 🙄 They were just not much different from fascist dictatorships, or any other kind of dictatorship - mostly because all dictatorships tend to be quite similar to one another.

Tomayto, tomahto.

DEFCON Warning System said:
Mostly the same. Though China isn't gobbling up countries to act as a shield for themselves.
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Look up "first island chain" and "second island chain".
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
Not really. That's just Russia just trying to justify. They want Ukraine as a shield against NATO.
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No, you are just plain wrong.

Putin is on record for declaring multiple times that the Russians and the Ukrainians are "one people" and that the division is an artificial one, and shouldn't exist.

Why doesn't anyone listen to what this guy says? He's been telling us straight what he intends to do for over 10 years now...
 
Trump is wasting his time with Putin. Putin knows it. Putin is just enjoying his untouched travels 😉. Putin has no need to follow western expectations about Ukraine. Results imo = bugger all when it comes to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
 
Socom7 said:
Duh, that's just No True Scotsman again.
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/rolls eyes
Socom7 said:
Of course there have been communist dictatorships. Plenty of them.
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Name them.

Socom7 said:
Putin is on record for declaring multiple times that the Russians and the Ukrainians are "one people" and that the division is an artificial one, and shouldn't exist.
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He's using that as an excuse. The whole intention of grabbing Ukraine is as a buffer between NATO and Russia. That was the whole purpose of the Soviet Union.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
Name them.
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Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, China under Mao Zedong, North Korea under Kim Il-sung, Cuba under Fidel Castro, Albania under Enver Hoxha, Cambodia under Pol Pot, Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh... do I need to go on? What's the point of this childish exercise?

DEFCON Warning System said:
He's using that as an excuse. The whole intention of grabbing Ukraine is as a buffer between NATO and Russia. That was the whole purpose of the Soviet Union.
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This is preposterous. The Soviet Union was making active preparations to invade and conquer the rest of Europe, thus establishing Moscow as a continental hegemon, the same way the US enjoys hegemony in North America.

They didn't stop because they "already had their buffer". They stopped because there were technologically superior tanks on the other side of Checkpoint Charlie.

Putin wants Europe still. All of it. He'd probably let Trump keep Greenland and Canada as a consolation prize, but in the end a war between the US and the Russia/China alliance is inevitable.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
He's using that as an excuse. The whole intention of grabbing Ukraine is as a buffer between NATO and Russia. That was the whole purpose of the Soviet Union.
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This is true, but his justification to the Russian people is that the ukranians and Russians are one people so technically it’s Russian land. So you’re correct in what he is trying to do I’m just explaining the means he is justifying it to his population as.
 
Socom7 said:
Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, China under Mao Zedong, North Korea under Kim Il-sung, Cuba under Fidel Castro, Albania under Enver Hoxha, Cambodia under Pol Pot, Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh... do I need to go on? What's the point of this childish exercise?
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None of those examples were communist. They were socialist dictatorships. You don't seem to know what a communist system is.

Socom7 said:
Putin wants Europe still. All of it.
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Russia does not want to militarily conqueror Europe. That is not in the realm of reality. They want influence, but not to take it over.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
None of those examples were communist. They were socialist dictatorships. You don't seem to know what a communist system is.
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*yawn* I'm not at all surprised you would reply in this fashion - after all, you did post the following:
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Smart move. A person unbound by common-sense definitions of basic concepts is sure to win every argument - at least in their own head. :)
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
Russia does not want to militarily conqueror Europe. That is not in the realm of reality. They want influence, but not to take it over.
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That so? Then what were those Soviet tank divisions doing in East Germany during the Cold War? What about all those maps on https://www.nato.int/cps/fr/natohq/declassified_138298.htm ? Or will you argue that, well, the Soviet Union may have wanted to militarily conquer Europe, but Russia is not at all like that, and has no such plans? 🤡
 
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