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DEFCON Warning System said:
You do know the Member of the Year is elected by the members, not Staff. Staff aren't even allowed to vote.
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No, as a matter of fact I don't know that - and I am prepared to bet money that 99% of people who visit this forum don't know that either. All they see is an official sounding title accompanying some extremely questionable rhetoric. And that's entirely on you.
 
Socom7 said:
No, as a matter of fact I don't know that - and I am prepared to bet money that 99% of people who visit this forum don't know that either. All they see is an official sounding title accompanying some extremely questionable rhetoric. And that's entirely on you.
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Believe it or not I of all members was voted for member of the year once. Didn't win but wasn't that far apart. Considering my popularity here I was shocked to have even been mentioned 🤣😂🤣😉 . You can be unnecessarily harsh now and then. My views are definitely a minority here on most subjects 🤷‍♂️ . I get alot of debate,some abuse in saying that minimal nowadays compared to while ago, all in all so what. I expect it considering.
At the end of the day even if 1 person thinks twice about their opinion or learns something new from me ,more likely emergency preparedness section if anywhere 🤣😂🤣🤷‍♂️ than I'm satisfied I'm not completely wasted here. Really no big deal who does or doesn't appreciate you here as long as the smallest input helps atleast 1 other in some way it is an achievement.
 
Socom7 said:
No, as a matter of fact I don't know that - and I am prepared to bet money that 99% of people who visit this forum don't know that either. All they see is an official sounding title accompanying some extremely questionable rhetoric. And that's entirely on you.
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Here it is, right here under Board Guidlines.

DEFCON Warning System

Thread 'Cast your vote for Member of the Year 2024'

It is time to cast your vote for Member of the Year.

The top three nominations are before you for your vote.

Winner will receive $100 prize.

Cast your vote here: Vote for Member of the Year

Points you to the voting.

DEFCON Warning System

Thread 'Vote for Member of the Year'

Nominations are closed and it is time to vote for 2024 Member of the Year!

These three candidates were the top three nominations. (In the event of a tie, the nominee was selected by random number.)

Pick one. You can not change your vote.

Winner will receive the Member of the Year trophy and $100 via PayPal

Voting closes Tuesday night, December 12, 2023

Staff are not eligible to vote. This contest is for the board members only.

Pick carefully. You can only vote once and you can not change your vote.

If people won't take time to read, that's on them (and you).
 
Snowfall said:
It was nowhere near the front lines it was on the western border. The problem is you can’t say that investing in Ukraine is proof the United States is going to provide security guarantees to Ukraine because we’re invested in Ukraine and then do nothing when those factories are bombed. At minimum the United States needs to provide air defense for those factories, if it was me I’d go further up to and including U.S. personal manning them in response to actions like this. Once again making empty statements is not peace through strength it’s being a liar and a politician.
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I agree completely.

I would have locked down UA airspace in all of western UA with an NFZ at weapons tight including counter fires and Tail chase shots at offending aircraft REGARDLESS of their locations.

Without interdictions into Pre 2014 Russia, it is self defense. If you begin to interdict locations (assembly areas, airfields etc you enter into the war.) So, yes it’s going to be a weak deterrent but you will be able to help defend western Ukraine.

It would have been so much better to have the troops and Aircraft in place in Feb 2022. Now it will raise a huge period of bedwetting and handwringing. IMO it will lead to nothing (other than safety in the west) . At night, alone in dark, Russian leaders know the truth: The US National Guard could kill or capture every unit they have in the UA without profound difficulty. NATO (and this scares me) is so profoundly mismatched with a paper Bear. We would completely overwhelm and destroy them. And why not, the population, GDPs and military spending are a total mismatch. Russia is not the CCCP. Poland and the Ukraine have left the building. We need the extra abilities to be able to fight China and Russia at the same time (or formally together).

I fear that once hostilities are joined and the west experiences serious casualties, (and we will) we won’t stop, not unlike in Korea and then Russia will get pushed into its corner and unleash it final option.

This is what scares me at night. We will defeat both Russia and China and push them back until they feel they have to use all their weapons. Then everyone loses.

Damn that stupid memorandum. Whatever happened to “not our problem”?
 
teekay99 said:
Avoiding labeling others with TDS helps the arguer to avoid engaging in ad hominem argument (attacks against an opponent), which is a logical fallacy. Labeling others as having TDS can add some laughs and entertainment value to the debate; however, avoiding the fallacy can make one's argument stronger.
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You mean like Russian collusion and insurrectionist.
Yes the use of TDS can and has been abused. Just as Russian collusion or insurrectionist was thrown around recklessly.

One example has led to memes and entertainment.

The other example led to three year long Special Prosecutor investigations and leak infested congressional hearings. That produced nothing.

I wonder which has been more damaging to the public discourse.
 
Socom7 said:
No, as a matter of fact I don't know that - and I am prepared to bet money that 99% of people who visit this forum don't know that either. All they see is an official sounding title accompanying some extremely questionable rhetoric. And that's entirely on you.
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No, that’s entirely you. The votes are public and run every year. Anyone, even the most obnoxious or most popular, the greatest liberal or conservative may be elected. Hell, I may nominate you this year.

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OReid said:
You mean like Russian collusion and insurrectionist.
Yes the use of TDS can and has been abused. Just as Russian collusion or insurrectionist was thrown around recklessly.

One example has led to memes and entertainment.

The other example led to three year long Special Prosecutor investigations and leak infested congressional hearings. That produced nothing.

I wonder which has been more damaging to the public discourse.
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I think, outside of warfare, the maximum public disclosure and discourse leads to the best governance. In warfare it probably does too but we need to settle for post recriminations to avoid greater casualties.
 
OReid said:
You mean like Russian collusion and insurrectionist.
Yes the use of TDS can and has been abused. Just as Russian collusion or insurrectionist was thrown around recklessly.

One example has led to memes and entertainment.

The other example led to three year long Special Prosecutor investigations and leak infested congressional hearings. That produced nothing.

I wonder which has been more damaging to the public discourse.
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Both are damaging, both can be true. Doesn't justify either. When you're talking on a public forum to other members, remember they aren't the ones responsible for any investigations you feel were unfair. Socom isn't Merrick Garland :ROFLMAO:
 
william said:
Personally, I believe NATO is in it up to their eyeballs and the US is violating russian airspace all the time and you won't hear about till 50 years from now. Oh, but I forget, the 71 was taken out of service but the US kept the U2 operational. You know, because it's better. :ROFLMAO:
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The SR71 was better but massively expensive and very risky especially after landing when fuel would leak all over the ground. U2 much cheaper to operate. Same reason the B-52 is still in use today, you just can’t break the damn thing.
 
Braver911 said:
The SR71 was better but massively expensive and very risky especially after landing when fuel would leak all over the ground. U2 much cheaper to operate. Same reason the B-52 is still in use today, you just can’t break the damn thing.
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Also just don't forget how toxic the fuel was and the tanks leaked until they reached operational temperature.

The exact fuel for the SR-72 is not publicly confirmed, but it is widely speculated to be similar to the JP-7 fuel used by its predecessor, the SR-71 Blackbird. The SR-71's JP-7 was a specialized, stable jet fuel designed to withstand the extreme heat generated during hypersonic flight, which is a key characteristic of the SR-72's mission profile.

Key Points about SR-71 JP-7 fuel:
  • Specialized Fuel:
    JP-7 was created specifically for the SR-71 to handle the extreme temperatures the aircraft experienced.

  • Thermal Expansion:
    The SR-71's airframe had loose-fitting panels designed to expand and seal as they heated up during flight, a process that would have been impossible with standard fuels and sealing systems.

  • Fuel Usage:
    The SR-71 would actually leak JP-7 on the ground before takeoff, as its tanks were designed to seal only at high speeds and temperatures.
 
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Braver911 said:
The SR71 was better but massively expensive and very risky especially after landing when fuel would leak all over the ground. U2 much cheaper to operate. Same reason the B-52 is still in use today, you just can’t break the damn thing.
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The SR-71 was replaced by rapid satellite deployments (if none existed) Time marches on and the incredible SR-71 finally because vulnerable to missiles. It requires a completely different fuel and dedicated tankers so logistics became a unmanageable nightmare as the cold war ended.

It was definitely the money.

For mostly uncontested space the U2 is super fine. If only it had wing wheels.

I always thought that was both the coolest and most dangerous portion of any mission: having El Camino race alongside with crew in the bed to attach wing wheels for landing. 😎
 
The SR-71 Blackbird was fueled by JP-7, a specialized jet fuel designed to withstand the extreme temperatures and pressures of the aircraft's high-speed flight. JP-7 is a complex mixture of hydrocarbons with low volatility and high thermal stability, allowing it to function effectively across a wide range of temperatures. The aircraft's unique design and operational requirements necessitated this specialized fuel.

Here's a more detailed look:
  • JP-7 Characteristics:
    JP-7 is not a conventional distillate fuel, but a custom blend created for the SR-71. It has a low vapor pressure and high thermal oxidation stability, crucial for handling the extreme heat generated during Mach 3+ flight. It also has a low concentration of volatile components and very few impurities.

    • Need for a Special Fuel:
      The SR-71's speed and operating conditions created extreme temperatures, making conventional jet fuel unsuitable. JP-7's high flash point and thermal stability were essential for preventing ignition and ensuring reliable engine performance.
    • Fuel Leakage:
      The SR-71 was known to leak fuel on the ground due to the design of its fuselage panels and lack of fuel bladders. The panels were intentionally spaced apart to allow for thermal expansion as the aircraft heated up in flight. This leakage was a necessary design feature to prevent overexpansion and ensure safe operation at high speeds.
    • Fuel System:
      The SR-71's fuel system was designed with the understanding that some leakage would occur on the ground. The aircraft was designed to refuel in the air to compensate for the fuel loss and to avoid overheating the fuel tanks.
    • Cost:
      The SR-71 was an extremely expensive aircraft to operate, with fuel costs contributing significantly to the overall expense. One source mentions the fuel alone costing $18,000 per hour, according to The National Interest.
 
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Love to see the concept of Lebensraum modernize itself for these modern day fascists on Twitter. Probably a bot but makes me realize why I don't go on the comments on that cesspool of a platform anymore
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
Here it is, right here under Board Guidlines.

DEFCON Warning System

Thread 'Cast your vote for Member of the Year 2024'

It is time to cast your vote for Member of the Year.

The top three nominations are before you for your vote.

Winner will receive $100 prize.

Cast your vote here: Vote for Member of the Year

Points you to the voting.

DEFCON Warning System

Thread 'Vote for Member of the Year'

Nominations are closed and it is time to vote for 2024 Member of the Year!

These three candidates were the top three nominations. (In the event of a tie, the nominee was selected by random number.)

Pick one. You can not change your vote.

Winner will receive the Member of the Year trophy and $100 via PayPal

Voting closes Tuesday night, December 12, 2023

Staff are not eligible to vote. This contest is for the board members only.

Pick carefully. You can only vote once and you can not change your vote.

If people won't take time to read, that's on them (and you).
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Thanks. I have now familiarized myself with the guidelines. I'll pen a longer reply below.
 
Torch said:
No, that’s entirely you. The votes are public and run every year. Anyone, even the most obnoxious or most popular, the greatest liberal or conservative may be elected. Hell, I may nominate you this year.

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Thanks. I suppose this is the problem with having a "people's choice" award in the first place: by relinquishing any sort of control over who gets awarded, you risk being coerced into a quasi-endorsement of some decidedly unsavory individuals. Think of it as the Boaty McBoatface effect - except much more sinister and potentially damaging.

I accept that you have no say in who gets this title - however, I will reiterate that the casual forum viewer is blissfully unaware of this fact, and just assumes that all recipients are affiliated with DWS in some sort of official capacity. Trust me - nobody reads terms of use, anywhere, ever.

PS. Please don't. :)
 
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Yingyang said:
You can be unnecessarily harsh now and then.
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Yep. Same goes for several other forum regulars. Can't speak on their behalf, but when it comes to me - it's actually intentional. As already noted - I'm from the Mal Reynolds school of thought ("If someone tries to kill you - you try to kill them right back!"), and given all the stuff that's going on - and the rhetoric on display - I've consciously decided to go for a more abrasive persona. Doesn't mean I no longer stand for rational thought and a measured approach to politics (or anything else, really). It's just that we're at war, and that's one of those circumstances where all's proverbially said to be fair... ;)

I know there are people here who positively despise me and probably secretly wish I got hit by a car or somesuch. That's fine. 😁
 
Peter Griffin said:
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Love to see the concept of Lebensraum modernize itself for these modern day fascists on Twitter. Probably a bot but makes me realize why I don't go on the comments on that cesspool of a platform anymore
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Orban is going full-on Mussolini, and I expect worse to come.

Pays to remember that the modern-day Hungary is a sad remnant of the old Austro-Hungarian empire, where Budapest had a lot more sway than it does today. Large Hungarian communities are now present outside the country's borders (predominantly in Slovakia, Romania and - to some extent - Ukraine). This makes Hungarian nationalists feel very raw - and no wonder they regard Putin as an opportunity to "set things right", so to speak.
 
william said:
english.nv.ua

China signals readiness to send peacekeepers to Ukraine — under one condition

Beijing is willing to send troops to Ukraine as part of a peacekeeping mission, the German outlet Welt reported on Aug. 23, citing unnamed sources.
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At this point putting Chinese troops in Ukraine is pretty much the same as putting more Russian troops there. When the time is right, they'll just do an about-face and march west hand in hand with their Russian comrades - the way North Korean troops are doing right now.

China is obviously not credible as a guarantor of any sort of settlement in the Russia/Ukraine war. But TBH that's irrelevant, since no settlement is coming.
 
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