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The part that worries me is at some point the words "Boots on the ground" were used, and you don't park 4,000 marines on an amphibious assault ship off the coast just so they can spot whales.
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US Military Build Up Near Venezuela | Aug 9th-28th 2025
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Does the Monroe Doctrine actually apply to South America? It's always seemed like a weird grey zone to me...
I suppose the US could engineer a coup in Caracas if it really wanted to. Funnily enough, the last guy who came up with that idea was one John Bolton...
I suppose the US could engineer a coup in Caracas if it really wanted to. Funnily enough, the last guy who came up with that idea was one John Bolton...
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Roosevelt Corollary - Wikipedia
Funny enough, the Corollary was initiated after the Blockade of Venezuela in 1902 by European powers. Now it could be used as precedent for military options or internal as you said. At the end of the day I have a feeling the Monroe Doctrine won't play much into foreign policy in the next 10-20 years. Quite a bit of instability in the region, while our 3 letter agencies froth at the mouth.
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Yep; I will agree with you on that count. The US is overstretched as it is, and its capability for intervening in South America is limited.Roosevelt Corollary - Wikipedia
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Funny enough, the Corollary was initiated after the Blockade of Venezuela in 1902 by European powers. Now it could be used as precedent for military options or internal as you said. At the end of the day I have a feeling the Monroe Doctrine won't play much into foreign policy in the next 10-20 years. Quite a bit of instability in the region, while our 3 letter agencies froth at the mouth.
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Now would probably be a great time to catch up on domestic politics in Venezuela & Colombia
Lots of tensions in Farc dissident groups on the border between the two. That bounty being doubled could very well be the incentive for some of these dissident groups to turn against Maduro and "Reform" themselves as proper "Freedom fighters", of course with help from certain Persona Grata from up north...Before anyone jumps my case, yes, my tin foil hat is already firmly planted on my head, and yes, I have sources!
Colombia: Fleeing the thunder of violence in Catatumbo
Around 80,000 people in northeastern Colombia are suffering the devastating consequences of an armed conflict that escalated on 15 January of this year. Caught in the crossfire between armed groups, thousands have been forced to flee with nothing but the clothes on their backs while others...
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Yes; this is why I stated that the US could potentially engineer a coup in Caracas. Maduro's hold on power is somewhat shaky, and Venezuela has become a failed state. US power is waning, but it still has enough power to do this.Now would probably be a great time to catch up on domestic politics in Venezuela & Colombia
Before anyone jumps my case, yes, my tin foil hat is already firmly planted on my head, and yes, I have sources!
Colombia: Fleeing the thunder of violence in Catatumbo
Around 80,000 people in northeastern Colombia are suffering the devastating consequences of an armed conflict that escalated on 15 January of this year. Caught in the crossfire between armed groups, thousands have been forced to flee with nothing but the clothes on their backs while others...news.un.org
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After being forced to return to Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia to wait out Hurricane Erin, the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group (ARG), consisting of the USS Iwo Jima (LHD-7), USS Fort Lauderdale (LPD-28) and USS San Antonio (LPD-17), have finally departed for their deployment to the Southern Caribbean Sea off the coast of Venezuela. There they will join by the Arleigh Burke-Class Guided-Missile Destroyers: USS Sampson (DDG-102), USS Gravely (DDG-107), and USS Jason Dunham (DDG-109), who have already arrived in the U.S. Southern Command’s Area-of-Responsibility.
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The Russian mil blog channel Rybar is suggesting that Russia deliver “Shahed-131/136” One-Way Attack Drones to Venezuela to “deter” any future military action from the United States.
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Secretary of State Marco Rubio talks about why the US is preparing to invade Venezuela.
Russia, China, and Iran are the cause, not the drug cartels as the Trump administration claims.
"Maduro's elections were completely rigged. Russia's presence in Venezuela is noticeable, and Iran's influence is growing.
The Iranians are building drone manufacturing plants there — right in our hemisphere.
Additionally, the Venezuelan regime issues illegitimate but genuine passports to Hezbollah forces."
Russia, China, and Iran are the cause, not the drug cartels as the Trump administration claims.
"Maduro's elections were completely rigged. Russia's presence in Venezuela is noticeable, and Iran's influence is growing.
The Iranians are building drone manufacturing plants there — right in our hemisphere.
Additionally, the Venezuelan regime issues illegitimate but genuine passports to Hezbollah forces."
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Problem with this situation is as long as the US doesn’t go in with boots it may achieve what it wants without to much kick back. Sending soldiers in would be a suicidal night mare. Mountains and thick jungle i can only see a horrible mix of Afghanistan and Vietnam rolled into 1. Not a promising outcome once again.
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US orders more ships to southern Caribbean with eye on drug cartels, sources say
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) — The United States has ordered more ships to the southern Caribbean as part of President Donald Trump's effort to address threats from Latin American drug cartels, two sources briefed on the deployment said on Monday.
The USS Lake Erie, a guided missile cruiser, and the USS Newport News, a nuclear-powered fast attack submarine, will arrive in the region by early next week, said the sources, who asked to remain anonymous.
US orders more ships to southern Caribbean with eye on drug cartels, sources say
The United States has ordered additional ships to the southern Caribbean as part of President Donald Trump's effort to address threats from Latin American drug cartels, two sources briefed on the deployment said on Monday.
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I wonder how these events are portrayed in Russian media? Is someone in the propaganda arm selling this to Russians using the same narrative the US/western media presents Ukraine to us?
(Assuming this is even being reported in Russian media.)
(Assuming this is even being reported in Russian media.)
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I don’t remember this angst or cynicism when tensions were escalating between Venezuela and Guyana in 23 -24.
www.straitstimes.com
And while Columbia is opposed to US intervention it is Venezuela who has moved 15000 troops to their boarder with Columbia.
theamericannews.net
So a stick has been sent to a region which has been, and continues to be harassed by bus driver/el Presidente.
Regional issues with Venezuela and its neighbors is not something new.
Nor is Venezuelas involvement in drug trafficking new.
Or are we just supposed to ignore it all?
latinamericanpost.com
It it’s easy to allude to another undeclared jungle war involving American Marines. Though it does not necessarily track with an administration who’s helped advance negotiations with several nations and regional wars to bring about peaceful settlements
Venezuela-Guyana tensions soar, US mounts military exercises
Venezuela’s government branded the exercises a “provocation.” Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.
And while Columbia is opposed to US intervention it is Venezuela who has moved 15000 troops to their boarder with Columbia.
Colombia's President Issues Urgent Warning to U.S. on Potential Venezuela Invasion - What It Means
Colombia's president issues a stark warning to the U.S. about the risks of a potential Venezuela invasion. Explore the geopolitical tensions and what this means for American foreign policy.
theamericannews.net
So a stick has been sent to a region which has been, and continues to be harassed by bus driver/el Presidente.
Regional issues with Venezuela and its neighbors is not something new.
Nor is Venezuelas involvement in drug trafficking new.
Or are we just supposed to ignore it all?
Venezuela's Deep Drug Crime Ties, A Brewing Crisis that Demands Attention
Amidst the political turbulence and global concerns surrounding Venezuela, one issue remains vastly underreported and underestimated: the deep-seated involvement of the state-owned oil company, Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), in drug trafficking activities.
latinamericanpost.com
It it’s easy to allude to another undeclared jungle war involving American Marines. Though it does not necessarily track with an administration who’s helped advance negotiations with several nations and regional wars to bring about peaceful settlements
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Is there some clear and present danger that requires US deployment in Venezuela? We are occupied in other theaters. Do we really need to open up a new conflict somewhere and lose just enough focus or resources elsewhere that some hidden tiger takes advantage of the new distraction and pounces in the far east?
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Ok 1 statement and 2 question
1.Trump may be escalating to de-escalate between Venezuela and Columbia.
2.Drugs may not be the real reason as that region hasn't changed. What has changed in that region may have more to do with China, Iran and or Russia should any of those countries shown interest recently? Investments not related to drugs? Just curious. Or is this simply America just supporting Columbia
. I mean really it seems a bit excessive for the issue claimed that always existed.
1.Trump may be escalating to de-escalate between Venezuela and Columbia.
2.Drugs may not be the real reason as that region hasn't changed. What has changed in that region may have more to do with China, Iran and or Russia should any of those countries shown interest recently? Investments not related to drugs? Just curious. Or is this simply America just supporting Columbia
. I mean really it seems a bit excessive for the issue claimed that always existed.
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Bingo, "winner, winner chicken dinner!"Ok 1 statement and 2 question
1.Trump may be escalating to de-escalate between Venezuela and Columbia.
2.Drugs may not be the real reason as that region hasn't changed. What has changed in that region may have more to do with China, Iran and or Russia should any of those countries shown interest recently? Investments not related to drugs? Just curious. Or is this simply America just supporting Columbia
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Where is the clear indication that the US Is infact deploying troops to Venezuela?
Or anywhere with boots on the ground in South America
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Venezuela has alot of oil.
They sell majority to China.
China has invested $67 million into Venezuela over the last couple of decades.
Russia supports Venezuela and has interests aswell.
Iran
I see oil not drugs.
Imagine China and Russia as proxies for Venezuela-US conflict
. Putin and Xi claiming the same situation as Europe and US as far as no direct involvement. Only support. Don't see it really as 4000 Marines and what ever else America can spare against 4.5 million militia amongst mountains and jungle equals a combo of vietnam - Afghanistan repeat. Yeah why the US is moving military assets to region is very very questionable. Keep spreading 
They sell majority to China.
China has invested $67 million into Venezuela over the last couple of decades.
Russia supports Venezuela and has interests aswell.
Iran
I see oil not drugs.
Imagine China and Russia as proxies for Venezuela-US conflict
. Putin and Xi claiming the same situation as Europe and US as far as no direct involvement. Only support. Don't see it really as 4000 Marines and what ever else America can spare against 4.5 million militia amongst mountains and jungle equals a combo of vietnam - Afghanistan repeat. Yeah why the US is moving military assets to region is very very questionable. Keep spreading - Status