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India-Russia-China Up & US Relations Down

DarkNoon said:
#India is shifting its assistance to #rupees, which would relieve the #Maldives from its persistent struggle with #dollar reserves and further #India’s de-dollarisation quest: Harsh V. Pant & @gs_aditya
https://twitter.com/x/status/1961914325506900230
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De-dollarisation is the single biggest threat to the US economy. It is the primary reason that that China has been earmarked as public enemy number 1 (if you thought it was because of Taiwan then you don't understand economics or politics).

Trump's policies are going to cost the US very, very, dearly for years, if not decades, to come.
 
Gaijin said:
De-dollarisation is the single biggest threat to the US economy. It is the primary reason that that China has been earmarked as public enemy number 1 (if you thought it was because of Taiwan then you don't understand economics or politics).
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I agree with this.
Gaijin said:
Trump's policies are going to cost the US very, very, dearly for years, if not decades, to come.
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So, what would be the proper course of economic policy in your opinion? All I hear is its Trumps fault.
 
Gaijin said:
De-dollarisation is the single biggest threat to the US economy. It is the primary reason that that China has been earmarked as public enemy number 1 (if you thought it was because of Taiwan then you don't understand economics or politics).

Trump's policies are going to cost the US very, very, dearly for years, if not decades, to come.
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They very well might, but doing nothing and just borrowing more money is a sure path to trouble.
Life and politics is about risk mitigation. There is no sure thing
 
Indians have a lot of raw emotions and do not like to be seen bending over in public. If these harsh statements had been made in private with the negotiators, it might have been less disastrous. But now in public, the indian media and public response to these irresponsible statements by the USA has made any reconciliation impossible for any Indian government.
 
India committed to improving ties with China, Modi tells Xi.
Read More:
www.reuters.com

India committed to improving ties with China, Modi tells Xi

The meeting took place five days after Washington imposed 50% tariffs on Indian goods due to New Delhi's purchases of Russian oil. Analysts say Xi and Modi are looking to present a united front against Western pressure.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
This is an ominous sign for Canada.

Once Trump has finished torching the network of alliances upon which America's post-WW2 global power has historically relied, he will need some foreign policy win to avoid sharing Mussolini's fate. And it will have to be a really big win in order to offset America's collapse as a guarantor of the world order.

A Ukraine-style military conquest of the US' northern neighbor is, unfortunately, the only viable option on the table.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
The problem is that India is being the fool. They are gravitating toward China because the US has upset them. Yet China doesn't like India. So India is moving toward an enemy simply because the US made them mad.
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Under normal circumstances (geopolitically speaking) a country like the US would be a natural partner for India in their attempts to counterbalance China's influence. However, your view fails to take into account the fact that the credibility of the USA as an ally, or even as a trade partner, has been reduced to near-zero. This is universally recognized the world over: there's nobody in Washington with whom any sort of reliable deal can be struck.

Given the above, Modi is acting in a rational manner: he's getting out of China's way as the latter prepares for land grabs in Southeast Asia. Sure, at some point in the future India and China are destined to become rivals, but this is very much a "15 years from now" problem for both Beijing and New Delhi.

You can gripe all you want, but the predictable consequences of your choices are upon you. What we're observing is the collapse of the world order caused by the shattering of its load-bearing pillar (specifically, the USA). A global war is now inevitable.
 
This is an excellent article and accurately portrays the situation as perceived by India. Please give this a read to understand what's going on.
www.nytimes.com

The Nobel Prize and a Testy Phone Call: How the Trump-Modi Relationship Unraveled

President Trump’s repeated claims about having “solved” the India-Pakistan war infuriated Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India. And that was only the beginning.
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What Trump wants most from Mr. Modi is a political nonstarter. I've been saying this for months now, even when the conflict was ongoing - it is absolute political suicide for Modi to admit to agreeing for a ceasefire with Pakistan. NYT has gone ahead and explained that further.

If Mr. Modi were to be perceived as having caved to American pressure for a cease-fire with a weaker nation, the costs at home would be enormous. Modi’s strongman identity depends, in large part, on how tough he is on Pakistan. Acknowledging that Mr. Trump had a role, let alone nominating him for a Nobel for it, would be seen as surrender. For Pakistan, which has found itself in Mr. Trump’s good graces recently, the decision to nominate him for the prize came quickly.

It is difficult to quantify exactly how much influence the United States had in resolving the latest outbreak of violence between India and Pakistan. Mr. Trump contends that he used trade as leverage to get the two sides to stop fighting. After these enticements and warnings, he said, “all of a sudden they said, ‘I think we will stop’” the fighting.

India denies that.

Washington does carry a lot of sway on both sides, and historically, messages from American leaders have helped quell tensions. But the fact that Mr. Modi could not find a way to even subtly acknowledge some Trump role, given the stakes, shows how explosive the issue is for him. Analysts say the extreme rigidity of the Indian response also speaks to how power over the past decade has been increasingly centralised at the service of protecting Mr. Modi’s strongman image at all costs.

“The idea that Modi would accept a cease-fire under U.S. pressure or that he needed or sought mediation — it doesn’t just go against his personality,” said Tanvi Madan, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. “It goes against Indian diplomatic practice. Modi sold his relationships with U.S. presidents as an asset — strategically and politically — and now the opposition is portraying his friendship with Trump as a liability.”

After the June call with Mr. Trump, Indian officials put out a statement saying Mr. Modi had “firmly stated that India does not and will never accept mediation” and that “President Trump listened carefully” and “expressed his support toward India’s fight against terrorism.”

The White House did not acknowledge the call, nor did Mr. Trump post about it on his social media accounts.
 
Socom7 said:
Under normal circumstances (geopolitically speaking) a country like the US would be a natural partner for India in their attempts to counterbalance China's influence. However, your view fails to take into account the fact that the credibility of the USA as an ally, or even as a trade partner, has been reduced to near-zero. This is universally recognized the world over: there's nobody in Washington with whom any sort of reliable deal can be struck.

Given the above, Modi is acting in a rational manner: he's getting out of China's way as the latter prepares for land grabs in Southeast Asia. Sure, at some point in the future India and China are destined to become rivals, but this is very much a "15 years from now" problem for both Beijing and New Delhi.

You can gripe all you want, but the predictable consequences of your choices are upon you. What we're observing is the collapse of the world order caused by the shattering of its load-bearing pillar (specifically, the USA). A global war is now inevitable.
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Yea! Down with the USA! Guess we're gonna see how the socialist utopia works out when the world is run by a cabal of authoritarian rulers!
TIANJIN, China — Chinese leader Xi Jinping has welcomed a large group of foreign dignitaries to China for meetings that he hopes will unite regional powers in their shared grievances with the U.S.-led global order and the policies of President Donald Trump.

President Vladimir Putin of Russia, Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus and India’s Narendra Modi are among 20 foreign leaders attending the two-day Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit, which began Sunday in this port city 90 miles southeast of Beijing.
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Is modi gonna be up on the podium with kim, xi, putin and lukashenko watching the military parade?
 
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