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Publius

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There's no reason citizens in the US should have to. We have plenty. What happened to "America First," cap it at $3 till the war is over! IMO
So are you saying Trump should dictate the cap on the price of gas companies can sell it for.

It’s the market, its never just about quantity, it’s about what the market will tolerate.


Now with all that said the gov is free to build a monopoly or price fixing case.

The petroleum distributors are pissing on america first right now.
 
There's no reason citizens in the US should have to. We have plenty. What happened to "America First," cap it at $3 till the war is over! IMO
Has anyone played the boardgame McMulti? That game is great introduction to oil markets and why they move the way they do.
 
There's no reason citizens in the US should have to. We have plenty. What happened to "America First," cap it at $3 till the war is over! IMO
Sooooooo, what I'm hearing you say is that the President of the United States should nationalize the American oil industry because - in your opinion - gasoline prices are too high for American consumers, due to a crisis that the President of the United States created in the first place?

Sounds to me like you got exactly what you voted for.

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Sooooooo, what I'm hearing you say is that the President of the United States should nationalize the American oil industry because - in your opinion - gasoline prices are too high for American consumers - due to a crisis that the President of the United States created in the first place?

Sounds to me like you got exactly what you voted for.

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Implementing price controls to override the free market is generally not a conservative position. Not only that, but it won't work. It will cause market distortions and supply shortages. Oil suppliers will supply less quantity of fuel to the market than what consumers will demand. There will be lines at the pump. It will magnify the blue wave that's coming in November.
 
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Sooooooo, what I'm hearing you say is that the President of the United States should nationalize the American oil industry
Yes, till the war is over. American gas, refined in America with American oil capped at $3 a gallon.
because - in your opinion - gasoline prices are too high for American consumers, due to a crisis that the President of the United States created in the first place?
Typical of left leaning thinking. Blame President Trump for a problem that goes back to the 70s.
Sounds to me like you got exactly what you voted for.
I did not vote for $4 or $5 a gallon gas like we had in the previous administration. I voted for MAGA, you know "Make America Great Again," which I guess is a profanity now according to some on the left. Gas prices were trending down before the war started and the President does have the power to cap prices for Americans without hurting the general economy. I do not believe this is going to be a long war. At least President Trump has the balls to actually do something about the Iran problem. I am curious. You are the President; how would YOU handle the Iran problem.
 
Typical of left leaning thinking. Blame President Trump for a problem that goes back to the 70s.
Implementing price controls on a free market is left leaning thinking by definition and will cause problems like what we saw with fuel in the 1970s. It's not the solution we need for maintaining good economic activity during this conflict with Iran.
 
Yes, till the war is over. American gas, refined in America with American oil capped at $3 a gallon.
If we can't do that for milk, bread, insulin, and health costs in general, then I don't give a damn how much you're paying for gas. You voted for him, and for two years he's had a Republican White House, a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican Supreme Court. They were too focused on renaming the Gulf of Mexico than passing real legislation that would actually help everyday Americans. At this point, there is no one to blame but the GOP and those that voted for them.

Typical of left leaning thinking. Blame President Trump for a problem that goes back to the 70s.
And typical of MAGA apologists to deflect blame. Doesn't matter how far back in history we have to go as long as it's not Trump's fault. And, I hate to tell you this (sorry, not sorry), but capping prices is SOCIALISM. Your suggestion leans even further left than I do.

I did not vote for $4 or $5 a gallon gas like we had in the previous administration.
Okay, make up your mind. Does the President have the authority to implement price controls on fuel or not? You want Trump to do it, but if Biden had even suggested it, you people would have lost your ever loving minds more than you already have. This isn't inconsistency; it's hypocrisy at its finest.

I voted for MAGA, you know "Make America Great Again," which I guess is a profanity now according to some on the left.
Because MAGA does indeed mean Make America Great Again*
*(but only for some people).

Gas prices were trending down before the war started and the President does have the power to cap prices for Americans
No, he doesn't, unless a national state of emergency or martial law is declared. President Trump is not God, no matter how hard you worship him.

without hurting the general economy.
Like this war is doing?

I do not believe this is going to be a long war.
America's history in the Middle East does not support your statement, but I can't prove you wrong. Yet.

At least President Trump has the balls to actually do something about the Iran problem.
Yep, because it takes a lot of courage to order bombs dropped from 50,000 feet, Tomahawks launched from 1,000 miles away, and deploy other people's kids overseas to die.

I am curious. You are the President; how would YOU handle the Iran problem.
Well, first of all, I most *definitely* would not have been trying to conduct international diplomacy via social media. I would have flown to Tehran, sat down with the leaders and talked to them like they weren't the red-headed stepchildren of Allah, try to earn their respect, which no US President has managed to do so far, and then once we have a basic understanding in place, I would put people smarter than I am in charge of working out the details of a mutually agreeable solution. Trump had no problem stepping into North Korea and shaking hands with Kim Jong Un; why doesn't he have the balls to fly to Tehran and shake hands with the Ayatollah and Iranian President?

Trump voters have been conned on a level unprecedented in American history. Some of them haven't realized it yet; some of them have realized it but are too embarrassed to admit it; and others are going public every day admitting they were wrong and that this is not what they voted for.

Which group are you in?
 
If we can't do that for milk, bread, insulin, and health costs in general, then I don't give a damn how much you're paying for gas. You voted for him, and for two years he's had a Republican White House, a Republican House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican Supreme Court. They were too focused on renaming the Gulf of Mexico than passing real legislation that would actually help everyday Americans.
Just a few things I can think of without doing a deep dive on your statement. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, getting rid of the environmental regulations on general business and car companies, right to try, a new site where you can shop around for the cheapest price for meds, I think they call it Trump RX or something like that to name just a few that help everyday Americans.
At this point, there is no one to blame but the GOP and those that voted for them.
See above. I will vote for policies like that again to.
And typical of MAGA apologists to deflect blame. Doesn't matter how far back in history we have to go as long as it's not Trump's fault. And, I hate to tell you this (sorry, not sorry), but capping prices is SOCIALISM. Your suggestion leans even further left than I do.
How am I deflecting? Watch msnbc, cnn, abc, cbs, nbc, bbc for half an hour. It's like 99% Trump bashing. He could cure cancer and they'd find fault with it. I can show you charts, graphs and vids if you like. As far as being further left than you, believe it or not there is a lot of things I am center left on.
Okay, make up your mind. Does the President have the authority to implement price controls on fuel or not? You want Trump to do it, but if Biden had even suggested it, you people would have lost your ever loving minds more than you already have. This isn't inconsistency; it's hypocrisy at its finest.
So, I would lose my mind if biden capped gas at $3 when it was $5 a gal. That's funny. I wish he had at the time. What was it he said, something like he wanted the price to go so high they'd put the oil companies out of business or something like that. I can find the quote if you like.
Because MAGA does indeed mean Make America Great Again*
*(but only for some people).


No, he doesn't, unless a national state of emergency or martial law is declared. President Trump is not God, no matter how hard you worship him.
I would call war special circumstances to cap gas or even general prices in general.
Like this war is doing?


America's history in the Middle East does not support your statement, but I can't prove you wrong. Yet.


Yep, because it takes a lot of courage to order bombs dropped from 50,000 feet, Tomahawks launched from 1,000 miles away, and deploy other people's kids overseas to die.


Well, first of all, I most *definitely* would not have been trying to conduct international diplomacy via social media. I would have flown to Tehran, sat down with the leaders and talked to them like they weren't the red-headed stepchildren of Allah, try to earn their respect, which no US President has managed to do so far, and then once we have a basic understanding in place, I would put people smarter than I am in charge of working out the details of a mutually agreeable solution. Trump had no problem stepping into North Korea and shaking hands with Kim Jong Un; why doesn't he have the balls to fly to Tehran and shake hands with the Ayatollah and Iranian President?
Gee, maybe it's the constant "Death to America" chants or the fact they tried to assassinate him that makes him leery of traveling to iran and sitting down with them. Secret Service probably wouldn't let him go there anyway.
As far as conducting diplomacy on social media, this is the information age isn't it. He constantly has to fight Trump bias; you know TDS about anything he does. If the Trump administration actually did what you propose and try to work out a "mutually agreeable solution" they would get the bomb. Then what. You cannot negotiate with someone that wants to kill you.
Trump voters have been conned on a level unprecedented in American history. Some of them haven't realized it yet; some of them have realized it but are too embarrassed to admit it; and others are going public every day admitting they were wrong and that this is not what they voted for.

Which group are you in?
Biden voters have been conned on a level unprecedented in American history. Some of them haven't realized it yet; some of them have realized it but are too embarrassed to admit it; and others are going public every day admitting they were wrong and that this is not what they voted for. Fixed it for you.
 
i won't get involve in the debate happening here earlier, but just reporting about gas prices in Europe.

Right now, it's about 2,2€ per liters (9,82USD per gallons) for diesel in south France


Also, i've noticed this last weekend some penuries/shortage of gasoline in the town of Narbonne (one of the major-ish town of south France)
 
i won't get involve in the debate happening here earlier, but just reporting about gas prices in Europe.

Right now, it's about 2,2€ per liters (9,82USD per gallons) for diesel in south France


Also, i've noticed this last weekend some penuries/shortage of gasoline in the town of Narbonne (one of the major-ish town of south France)
Similar price in the UK too. No shortages though
 
Yes, till the war is over. American gas, refined in America with American oil capped at $3 a gallon.

Typical of left leaning thinking. Blame President Trump for a problem that goes back to the 70s.

I did not vote for $4 or $5 a gallon gas like we had in the previous administration. I voted for MAGA, you know "Make America Great Again," which I guess is a profanity now according to some on the left. Gas prices were trending down before the war started and the President does have the power to cap prices for Americans without hurting the general economy. I do not believe this is going to be a long war. At least President Trump has the balls to actually do something about the Iran problem. I am curious. You are the President; how would YOU handle the Iran problem.
Go electric!!!!!!! solve Big oil greed!
yes there would be power needs, Nuc, Gas Wind, Solar,
 
Huge fire just broke out at one of Australia’s last two oil refineries. It processes 120,000 barrels a day, equivalent to 10% of consumption.
  • The blaze, reported late April 15 with explosions and heavy smoke prompting shelter warnings, occurs as Australia holds roughly 30-39 days of diesel and petrol reserves amid global supply strains from Middle East tensions.
  • Public reaction shows widespread suspicion of sabotage or foul play given the timing and vulnerability of the site, though authorities have described it as an industrial incident with no injuries reported and the fire initially uncontained.
 
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