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🗣️ | UA-NATO/RU | Signs of Pre-Crisis Environment | ANALYSIS OF REPORTS

The article has an anti-Western slant, but it is valuable to see what Russians think. The article states what we have noted for quite some time. Nice to see others catching up.
 
Merged thread due to article bias. It is relevant due to Russian view point. But not relevant enough for its own thread. If I made mistake let me know @staff. Not giving context as @DEFCON Warning System should know, since I moved his post too.
 
Iran war looks to be coming to a close. Enjoy the free time before it ends. Because it will eventually....
Reading NuclearID’s comment here got me thinking. With the Iran war now coming to a close, what are the chances that EU’s eastern flank/Ukraine becomes another flashpoint? I feel that out of all the world’s crises, this would be the most likely to lead to nuclear use. As of now, tempo seems to be relatively stagnant, but boarding on non status quo. Kind of getting worried…..
 
As of now, tempo seems to be relatively stagnant, but boarding on non status quo. Kind of getting worried…..
Yes which is why I have worded it very carefully including in the title. I feel like we're in a pre-crisis scenario. We are NOT in a crisis, there is NO emergency, the sky is NOT falling, nor will it fall anytime soon.

Just... Things seem to be lining up to cleanly for another showdown on the European theater sometime in our near future.

How or what. Who knows. After doing this for over a decade. You kinda just get a good barometer on these things.... But of course barometers can be wrong too! All about the interpretation of known facts.
 
Yes which is why I have worded it very carefully including in the title. I feel like we're in a pre-crisis scenario. We are NOT in a crisis, there is NO emergency, the sky is NOT falling, nor will it fall anytime soon.

Just... Things seem to be lining up to cleanly for another showdown on the European theater sometime in our near future.

How or what. Who knows. After doing this for over a decade. You kinda just get a good barometer on these things.... But of course barometers can be wrong too! All about the interpretation of known facts.
Just for the hell of it, what do you deem “our near future?” A few weeks? 1-3 months? Should I look into canceling into plans traveling out of state if things get bad?
 
Just for the hell of it, what do you deem “our near future?” A few weeks? 1-3 months? Should I look into canceling into plans traveling out of state if things get bad?
It wildly depends... On a lot of factors... IMHO. Near future to me could mean within the next month or 6 months.

The factors in considering is Iran war and weather Trump tries to gain a quick "win" over Cuba over his loss on Iran.

If Trump goes after Cuba shortly after Iran calms down. A month before things get truly "bumpy" in Europe.

If Trump doesn't go after Cuba. Than maybe 6 months or not at all. Putin is dumb. But he has enough smart people around him IMHO to make somewhat the right "calls."

If Putin or others around him think US to distracted and drawn out enough after Iran war, then Cuba... putin may move to test NATO rather quickly.

A LOT OF PEOPLE FORGET that Russia has since the start of the Ukraine war in 2014 been building up its modern and advanced weaponry, VERY well despite sanctions, by in large not using said advanced weaponry on Ukraine, rather building low tier tech trench warfare to fight Ukraine, while saving/building it's advanced stockpiles.

👉What Russia fights Ukraine with is not what Russia will fight NATO with, these two distinctions matter a whole lot in analysis when it comes to deterrence between the both. Russia has been building and stockpiling it's advanced weaponry and not using it at all, all this time.

So while Russia's trench warfare capabilities are drawn out it's high tech or more advanced weaponry has been building and stockpiling since the start of war. NATO leadership must be aware of this especially if I'm aware of it. SO...

This isn't some disproportionate battlefield statistic, Russia can absolutely most likely still hold toe to toe in an initial conflict with NATO as Russia has spared, stockpiled, and built up most of its advanced weaponry while not using it in Ukraine, saving it as a deterrent to NATO.

BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT MOST to know this since Western media likes to talk a lot of crap about Russia. Me included. Guilty... But sadly it's not all true....

👉So the battlefield isn't as lopsided as many like to think & the leaders all know this.

With Trump being so wishy washy on the NATO alliance, that also gives more 'juice" so to speak to any Russian planners on the probability or outcome of testing NATO.

Which in my opinion generates great risk because just because the United States won't defend NATO at least publicly leaves a lot of ambiguity because there are still other NATO members who can besides the United States.

Not only that even if the United States was unwilling to defend NATO we have a bunch of troops in NATO and if Russia were to attack NATO any US troops caught in cross fire will automatically drag us in.
 
Not only that even if the United States was unwilling to defend NATO we have a bunch of troops in NATO and if Russia were to attack NATO any US troops caught in cross fire will automatically drag us in.
Which is why I firmly believe if Putin or Russia were to test NATO it would NOT be official military action at all. It would be an insurgency or a rebellion inside a bordertown in NATO on Russian border.

For example some Lithuanian town (on border with Russia) with maybe a hundred people or a little more. A bunch of locals rise up expell the government and police, try to declare independence, or try to secede to Russia.

They would be unmarked men so that way Russia could do plausible deniability that's why even if NATO did attack these quote unquote rebels, it wouldn't start world War III.

At least that would be the smart option. Weather Russia is smart or not is left to be determined. But again doesn't matter if Russia is smart or not they have been stockpiling enough advance weaponry to make any confrontation not acceptable to NATO.

👉Would be a win win for Putin, WORST case scenario for Putin is NATO scrambles and expels the unmarked/flagless rebellion. BEST case scenario for Putin is NATO can't get it shit together and a small bordertown revolt breaks the alliance.
 
It wildly depends... On a lot of factors... IMHO. Near future to me could mean within the next month or 6 months.

The factors in considering is Iran war and weather Trump tries to gain a quick "win" over Cuba over his loss on Iran.

If Trump goes after Cuba shortly after Iran calms down. A month before things get truly "bumpy" in Europe.

If Trump doesn't go after Cuba. Than maybe 6 months or not at all. Putin is dumb. But he has enough smart people around him IMHO to make somewhat the right "calls."

If Putin or others around him think US to distracted and drawn out enough after Iran war, then Cuba... putin may move to test NATO rather quickly.

A LOT OF PEOPLE FORGET that Russia has since the start of the Ukraine war in 2014 been building up its modern and advanced weaponry, VERY well despite sanctions, by in large not using said advanced weaponry on Ukraine, rather building low tier tech trench warfare to fight Ukraine, while saving/building it's advanced stockpiles.

👉What Russia fights Ukraine with is not what Russia will fight NATO with, these two distinctions matter a whole lot in analysis when it comes to deterrence between the both. Russia has been building and stockpiling it's advanced weaponry and not using it all, all this time.

So while Russia's trench warfare capabilities are drawn out it's high tech or more advanced weaponry has been building and stockpiling since the start of war. NATO leadership must be aware of this especially if I'm aware of it. SO...

This isn't some disproportionate battlefield statistic, Russia can absolutely most likely still hold toe to toe in an initial conflict with NATO as Russia has spared, stockpiled, and built up most of its advanced weaponry while not using it in Ukraine, saving it as a deterrent to NATO.

BUT I WOULDN'T EXPECT MOST to know this since Western media likes to talk a lot of crap about Russia. Me included. Guilty... But sadly it's not all true....

👉So the battlefield isn't as lopsided as many like to think & the leaders all know this.

With Trump being so wishy washy on the NATO alliance, that also gives more 'juice" so to speak to any Russian planners on the probability or outcome of testing NATO.

Which in my opinion generates great risk because just because the United States won't defend NATO at least publicly leaves a lot of ambiguity because there are still other NATO members who can besides the United States.

Not only that even if the United States was unwilling to defend NATO we have a bunch of troops in NATO and if Russia were to attack NATO any US troops caught in cross fire will automatically drag us in.
A simply superb analysis there. Quite better than any I’ve come across in the MSM, imo.
 
Interestingly, just after I responded to your post, I saw this: it’s from TASS, but concerning nonetheless.

Moscow to appeal to UN Court over violations of Russians' rights in Baltic states — MFA

Groundwork being laid or a nothingburger?
Nah. First glance just same old Russian antics.

Any real change would start in "grey" area tactics. Russia doesn't tend to announce it's escalations. At least the real ones...

Typical almost always (not always) anything they say is of zero value, not even to gauge their feelings, as often times even their own local media is distorted so it's really hard to gauge what the Kremlin is actually feeling at any given time even based off of public statements.

Though... Russia saying there might be a false flag attack by Ukraine to U.N Sec. council on the Baltic states last week definitely raised my eyebrows.... Though thankfully nothing has happened besides uptick in drone incursions. So far, at least...
 
Typical almost always (not always) anything they say is of zero value, not even to gauge their feelings, as often times even their own local media is distorted so it's really hard to gauge what the Kremlin is actually feeling at any given time even based off of public statements.
Which is why any crisis with Russia and the West is particularly peculiar, because any typical analysis from anybody who is Western or institutionally Western cannot truly debate or analyze what Russia will do. As anyone outside of the Russian government truly doesn't know how they feel or what they're thinking. And anyone who has grown up outside of Russia doesn't understand the logic even in its most simplistic forms.

No more or less how anyone can TRULY understand in North Korea how people in Denmark live culturally, traditionally, societally/laws OR vice versa.

Those indifferences are inability to understand how the other side comes to their conclusion or action can be very dangerous. And that is how miscalculations or worse errors happen....
 
Which is why I firmly believe if Putin or Russia were to test NATO it would NOT be official military action at all. It would be an insurgency or a rebellion inside a bordertown in NATO on Russian border.

For example some Lithuanian town (on border with Russia) with maybe a hundred people or a little more. A bunch of locals rise up expell the government and police, try to declare independence, or try to secede to Russia.

They would be unmarked men so that way Russia could do plausible deniability that's why even if NATO did attack these quote unquote rebels, it wouldn't start world War III.

At least that would be the smart option. Weather Russia is smart or not is left to be determined. But again doesn't matter if Russia is smart or not they have been stockpiling enough advance weaponry to make any confrontation not acceptable to NATO.

👉Would be a win win for Putin, WORST case scenario for Putin is NATO scrambles and expels the unmarked/flagless rebellion. BEST case scenario for Putin is NATO can't get it shit together and a small bordertown revolt breaks the alliance.
There's actually a movie about this very scenario but in Finland. A pretty good watch even though there are some unrealistic elements added because it's well, a movie, but still pretty good. It's called Konflikti (Conflict)
 
So…..conventional or otherwise? I can’t seem to recall in all my times of monitoring this conflict the Russian MFA actively telling foreigners to “get out” before an attack, lest striking “decision making centers” in Kyiv. Yikes.
Personally speaking only, I still believe it will be conventional . This past weekend they used, or at least reported to use, their Oreshnik multi munition missile. It will probably involve more of these.
The big takeaway, again only my personal opinion, is that they are going to focus on Kyiv, in a very big way, and are trying to avoid as many non-non-Ukranian casualties as possible. ESPECIALLY diplomatic ones.
 
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Personally speaking only, I still believe it will be conventional . This past weekend they used, or at least reported to use, their Oreshnik multi munition missile. It will probably involve more of these.
The big takeaway, again only my personal opinion, is that they are going to focus on Kyiv, in a very big way, and are trying to avoid as many non-non-Ukranian casualties as possible. ESPECIALLY diplomatic ones.
Well, it’s good to see that they’re at least somewhat focused on escalation mitigation if they want to avoid non-Ukrainian casualties…..
 
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